New 757 rates at NWA

[Maximilian_Jenius]

It's only ONE engine, they had three more! Anyways, the aircraft performed better than it would have with a typical engine cut because of the lack of drag from the displaced engine.

You left out the tag JH. My point is that they have a history of poor maintence and another point is that a 747 is supposed to have 4 engines and not 3.

 

[USAFplt]

I'm probably going to get flamed (well, warmed... ya'll are mostly nice around here) for saying this but....


I have no problem with the prospect of putting my time in at the regionals and then going on to someplace like Frontier or Airtran and toping out at 120K after 10 or so years. Don't get me wrong. I would like to see the wages go back up to what they were, but I just don't think it is going to happen. I would much rather people spend their time trying to get the bottom end of the wages up to the high 30s and low 40s for the first year or so. But, of course, the people that negotiate these things are all senior and don't give a rats backside. I know I know. Get involved. But either way, for people to say that the ONLY good jobs left are at FDX and UPS, I just don't buy it. I am much more concerned about going somewhere and staying there then going there and making bank.

and this is why the industry is the way it is now..professionals shouldnt accept 120K after 10 years..i'm sorry

 

[mrivc211]

"and this is why the industry is the way it is now..professionals shouldnt accept 120K after 10 years..i'm sorry"

Thank you. My thoughts exactly. You shouldnt be happy settling on 120K when you know u can do better. This ain't over bud. This ain't over by a long shot.

 

[CoBuilder]

You left out the tag JH. My point is that they have a history of poor maintence and another point is that a 747 is supposed to have 4 engines and not 3.

Actually that engine that fell was due to a part manufacturing problem(that company took responsibility) and had little to do with the maintenance crew.

 

[Kingairer]

Hold my beer while i kiss your girlfriend

 

[lostplanetairman]

APC lists maxed out rates at NWA as 142/97. Since the TA hasn't been voted on yet, I'm assuming those rates don't reflect the 23.9% cut. Figure that in and you're looking at 108/74 as maxed out (12th year) rates to fly a 757.

Horizon 14th year RJ Capt rates are 107.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it....

PS: I hope I'm wrong about the rates currently posted at APC.

The TA calls for making the 23.9% cuts, imposed temporarily, permanent. So the rates on APC right now are correct. It's not another 23.9% on top of the temporary cut. This is on top of the 15% they took in 2004.

The big thing is that, on top of the retirement of the DC-9's which will cause over 1,000 pilots to lose their jobs (except for those that go to SJet at reduced pay), there are increases in the maximums and decreases in vacation that will cause over 1,000 additional to lose their jobs (this same provision is in the FA TA--to cause elimination of 1,500 FA's). So, there will be 100% loss of pay for many, and downgrading from CA to FO pay for many.

Newco is still there. Now it's called SJet and no one knows the details yet.

 

[DE727UPS]

Thank you. I'm glad I was wrong about the pay rates.