NASA reportedly broke the speed of light

[RDoug]

I'll get excited when an outside group duplicates this so-called "warp bubble" and gets another laser beam to travel at greater than C. Until that happens, it's no surprise to me that this hasn't been picked up by the press. At the moment it's just another "cold fusion" story.

 

[SpiceWeasel]

@juxtapilot, is that you?

In the curtain flipping light switches....

 

[juxtapilot]

From the article link in my post above:

An EmDrive paper has finally been accepted by peer review

"Originally, this article pointed out that previous studies and papers on the EmDrive have either not been submitted, or passed peer review. Those days are in the past, however, given a NASA Eagleworks’ paper on the EmDrive test which has reportedly passed the peer review process and will soon be published by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics’ AIAA Journal of Propulsion and Power.

This is an important step for the EmDrive as it adds legitimacy to the technology and the tests done thus far, opening the door for other groups to replicate the tests. This will also allow other groups to devote more resources to uncovering why and how it works, and how to iterate on the drive to make it a viable form of propulsion. So, while a single peer-reviewed paper isn’t going to suddenly equip the human race with interplanetary travel, it’s the first step toward eventually realizing that possible future."

Yes, but what's it say? A lot of stuff goes through the peer review process and eventually is realized to be nonsense. I guess what I should have said is... I want to see the paper.

 

[A Life Aloft]

Then you'll have to read it here when it is published:

http://arc.aiaa.org/loi/jpp

 

[av8tr1]

From the article link in my post above:

An EmDrive paper has finally been accepted by peer review

"Originally, this article pointed out that previous studies and papers on the EmDrive have either not been submitted, or passed peer review. Those days are in the past, however, given a NASA Eagleworks’ paper on the EmDrive test which has reportedly passed the peer review process and will soon be published by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics’ AIAA Journal of Propulsion and Power.

This is an important step for the EmDrive as it adds legitimacy to the technology and the tests done thus far, opening the door for other groups to replicate the tests. This will also allow other groups to devote more resources to uncovering why and how it works, and how to iterate on the drive to make it a viable form of propulsion. So, while a single peer-reviewed paper isn’t going to suddenly equip the human race with interplanetary travel, it’s the first step toward eventually realizing that possible future."

You realize every chemtrail mouth breather is claiming that we've had this for years in Area 51.

 

[Richman]

Why are we not excited? Because we've heard this, and anti-gravity, and home energy fusion reactors, and cures for all sorts of ailments time and time and time again on Slashdot, Reddit and all of the other hyperventilating science blogs.

None of them ever panned out. Not one. We can't even get Mr. Harriman's rocket off the launch pad without going blooie.

Big science makes little news. Big science news ain't. You want to get freaked, check out Crispr. That's the stuff that's actually happening.

Richman

 

[av8tr1]

Bending space takes an extraordinary amount of energy and its unlikely they've achieved it using only 2.5Kw

But if there data is validated then that is exactly what they did. During the test the laser beams had traveled faster than the speed of light, at around 300,000 kilometers per second... suggesting that the EM Drive may have produced a warp bubble like the kind that allows travel faster than the speed of light.

 

[z987k]

Why are we not excited? Because we've heard this, and anti-gravity, and home energy fusion reactors, and cures for all sorts of ailments time and time and time again on Slashdot, Reddit and all of the other hyperventilating science blogs.

None of them ever panned out. Not one. We can't even get Mr. Harriman's rocket off the launch pad without going blooie.

Big science makes little news. Big science news ain't. You want to get freaked, check out Crispr. That's the stuff that's actually happening.

Richman

I've never heard of any of those passing peer review and getting published in a real journal.

 

[thevideographer]

I would disregard the faster than light thing for now as that would take some serious physics-breaking to happen. There are still explanations for the EM Drive that fall within the laws of physics so one of those explanations is most likely. It's still really fascinating and I can't believe we have now had this many repeated tests without revealing some fault - and nobody knows how it works yet.

 

[Screaming_Emu]

@juxtapilot, is that you?

 

[Richman]

When I can book a ticket to 40 Eridani A to get a Vulcan neck massage, then we'll talk.

I might be willing to accept a trip to α Canis Minoris for Andorian snowcones instead, but that's a maybe.

I would disregard the faster than light thing for now as that would take some serious physics-breaking to happen. There are still explanations for the EM Drive that fall within the laws of physics so one of those explanations is most likely. It's still really fascinating and I can't believe we have now had this many repeated tests without revealing some fault - and nobody knows how it works yet.

My vote is they forgot to convert the units to metric.

Richman

 

[derg]

Mmmmmmmetric.

 

[juxtapilot]

I would disregard the faster than light thing for now as that would take some serious physics-breaking to happen. There are still explanations for the EM Drive that fall within the laws of physics so one of those explanations is most likely. It's still really fascinating and I can't believe we have now had this many repeated tests without revealing some fault - and nobody knows how it works yet.

It's not completely unrealistic that they may have data to show EM Drive might be possible, but to accidentally stumble into science manipulating the geometry of spacetime is pretty far out there.

 

[Inverted]

I'd much rather watch a bunch of ignorant hillbillys oppress gays and blacks for 26 minutes than learn about the universe. The earth is flat anyway.....

 

[hook_dupin]

Is this thing just a conical solar-powered microwave antenna?

I don't know about this warp bubble stuff, but a thruster without propellant is pretty damn cool.

Many people don't realize it: cube sats have dramatically changed how space testing is done. Now, for only a few $100K, you can test a concept like this.

 

[NickH]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_science

 

[gotWXdagain]

So when do they solve time dilation?

 

[jtrain609]

So when do they solve time dilation?

That's not something to be solved; it's a feature, not a bug.

 

[RDoug]

During the test the laser beams had traveled faster than the speed of light, at around 300,000 kilometers per second... suggesting that the EM Drive may have produced a warp bubble like the kind that allows travel faster than the speed of light.

No. There is an unsubstantiated claim that a laser exceeded the speed of light. And when one considers that C is 299,792.258 kph, a claim of exceeding C by 207.542 kph — which just "coincidentally" rounds out the speed measurement to a perfectly round 300,000 kph — this sounds suspiciously to me as if someone at the lab got unduly excited because someone else in the lab rounded up when they verbally announced the speed measurement. Because I find it suspicious that the measurement was an even number, and if C had truly been exceeded then the exact measurement to a hundredth of a meter would have been announced.

 

[gotWXdagain]

That's not something to be solved; it's a feature, not a bug.

Every time you pop out of warp after having been there for two seconds meanwhile everything you've ever loved has now been dead for 10,000 years.