My XJT interview experience

DE727UPS said:
"I have yet to meet a gulfstream pilot who's career was actually "slowed" by going to Gulfstream."

Where are you meeting all these Gulfstream pilots? Do they hang out at University of Michigan and fly 152's? Not that there is anything wrong with that...
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LOL !!!


No.

All I've met on flightinfo forums, and have talked to them via PM. If you post in general about Gulfstream, it always spirals out of control, with insults flying everywhere.

By sending a PM, it keeps things private, and I get a lot more info that way.

There are quite a few users there who are ex-Gulfstreams, and one even a current Gulfstreamer. Please don't ask for their user names :D
 
There are two here. Both say it was a bad choice and wouldn't do it again if they had to do it over...
 
"PFJ," The People's Front of Judea? or is it the Judean People's Front (JPF) or the Popular People's Judean Front (PPJF). Sorry, just watched some Monty Python and couldn't resist.
 
There is a stigma being given to Gulfstream PFT'ers. Maybe it hasn't permeated the industry completely yet, but the current generation of young pilots knows about the little scheme and resents it.

Gulfstream is a bad, bad way to try and start an airline career. Cherokee Cruiser: Why are you trying to marginalize the problem of Pay-for-jobs by bringing every other problem with the industry into the discussion? Who are you to say that Gulfstream is any more or less a problem than the other things you mention? I think gulfstream is a huge problem, especially now that they're getting EMB-120's. I wouldn't be surprised if they get their grubby little hands on an RJ eventually......then look out....we'll all be underbid because they can get their FO's to pay to fly an RJ!

As far as GoJets....the majority of their pilots come from TSA itself from what I understand.
 
Alchemy said:
Gulfstream is a bad, bad way to try and start an airline career. Cherokee Cruiser: Why are you trying to marginalize the problem of Pay-for-jobs by bringing every other problem with the industry into the discussion?
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I'm trying to bring to light all the problems that are currently wrong, on top of Gulfstream's PFT scheme. Just because we discuss GoJets, regionals undercutting, does not mean we should compeletely ignore GIA/PFT. I say throw them in the same bag for discussion, but be sure that they're included when discussing what's wrong with the industry.

Who are you to say that Gulfstream is any more or less a problem than the other things you mention?
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That's just an opinion. I can't weight it and say that GIA is worse than GoJets alter ego dilemma or regionals undercutting each other dilemma. What I'm saying is that all three of those *are* problems. How serious each one is... well that's up to the person, I suppose.


I think gulfstream is a huge problem, especially now that they're getting EMB-120's. I wouldn't be surprised if they get their grubby little hands on an RJ eventually......then look out....we'll all be underbid because they can get their FO's to pay to fly an RJ!
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As a Gulfstream student, your 250 hours will be on the Beech 1900.

From what I understand, during those 250 hours, the pilot's name is not on the master seniority list. IF you're given permanent hire offer upon completion, then you are given a seniority number, and can get what you bid for / what you can hold.

So, Gulfstream only has permanent hire (seniority number holding) F/Os in their E120s.

Let me check the Gulfstream contract, and their language regarding bigger airplanes than 19 seaters. So far, I believe only people on the seniority lists can fly anything with more than 19 seats. I'll check into it.

I may be wrong, so I'll try and check.
 
pilotkppsg said:
"PFJ," The People's Front of Judea? or is it the Judean People's Front (JPF) or the Popular People's Judean Front (PPJF). Sorry, just watched some Monty Python and couldn't resist.
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"Judaen People's Front, Pah! We're the People's Front of Judea and don't forget it! Well except for him .... Splitter!"
 
:rawk: Congratulations on your new job with XJT, NYer914 (hmmm....NY, area code 914 = upstate NY). I hope to be joining you there in a few months. I didn't get the ATP job, but I like where I am now in Atwater, Ca with Sierra, so I'll be building my time here and I'd probably not do the RJ course (as it's far more expensive when you're not an ATP instructor).

I'll keep reading the interview experiences so that I'd be ready. I'm currently studying to take the ATP written in about a month or so (it's a little harder than I thought), which would hopefully help me come interview time.

Neil
 
Just got hired yesterday!!!! Nothing new to add to the gouge. Just be yourself and it's a snap. Great folks that did the interviewing there. Can't wait to get started in groundschool on April 24th.
 
Wannabe2 said:
Just got hired yesterday!!!! Nothing new to add to the gouge. Just be yourself and it's a snap. Great folks that did the interviewing there. Can't wait to get started in groundschool on April 24th.
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Congratualtions are in order for you too, sir! What were your hours?

Neil
 
Thanks! Hours were 1000TT and 300 Multi. Some with more, most with less. One guy that got hired had 550TT and 150 Multi.
 
Wannabe2 said:
Thanks! Hours were 1000TT and 300 Multi. Some with more, most with less. One guy that got hired had 550TT and 150 Multi.
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Wow! 550 total with 150 multi? What's his background? That is wonderful news for him!

Neil
 
Wow Congratas!! did you and or the guy mentioned above my post, do an internship through x-jet and do mins also apply to ainline COA when interning for them???-thanks.
 
The 550 guy went to ATP. I think they have a contract for guaranteed interviews or something after so much time instructing, not sure of the details. He said he went from zero time last June to the interview that day. That is working your a$$ off!
 
Wannabe2 said:
The 550 guy went to ATP. I think they have a contract for guaranteed interviews or something after so much time instructing, not sure of the details. He said he went from zero time last June to the interview that day. That is working your a$$ off!
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amazing!!

I really like x-jet if i had the choice, i think i'd work for them, AWAC, or Horizon - of course if i had choices...
 
Wannabe2 said:
The 550 guy went to ATP. I think they have a contract for guaranteed interviews or something after so much time instructing, not sure of the details. He said he went from zero time last June to the interview that day. That is working your a$$ off!
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That's one of the ATP guys there. I was another. Although I had my Private for 5 years before I started and worked at a small airport in Ohio helping mechanics fix aircraft and other airport chores. I went to Kent State University and did the Aviation program there... so I had a slightly broader background going into ATP

I had 535 Total and 325 Multi. I did the ExpressJet internship in Fall 2003 and decided to get all my ratings. Started the 90-day career pilot program on May 30th, 2005 then started instructing in October. Interviewed on the 6th of April and I'll be starting on May 8th, 2006.

Since I had the internship I saved myself a couple of grand by not having to do the RJ Standards Course... so I had that going for me.

I had fun instructing for ATP... 29 signoffs... and I still have 4 more to give before I leave for good. I could have snagged 3 Gold Seals!
 
I was in the same interview group and was unfortunatley not offered a job. Just curious, how many of the 40+ that interviewed made it through?
 
flyboy04 said:
I was in the same interview group and was unfortunatley not offered a job. Just curious, how many of the 40+ that interviewed made it through?
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I'm not sure. I know around 8-10 were in the drug test lab when I was there... but I have no idea how many made it since some went through really early. I do know that they filled up the April 24th class and since I was one of the later ones I ended up in the May 8th class.
 
I am guessing 25-30 got hired that day. No specific numbers or anything, but I know at least five or six had already done thier paperwork by the time I did mine. There were another ten or so doing paperwork while I was in there and there were still a dozen folks waiting to finish interviewing when I left to do my fingerprinting and pee test. Sorry you didn't get hired. Anything specific that you can think of that tripped you up? Not to bust on you or anything like that, just perhaps good info for those that will interview in the future. Did they invite you to reapply? I have heard if they do you are almost a shoe-in the second time around... I know other friends of mine that interviewed earlier this year, some of them didn't get hired and most of them weren't quite sure what it was that they said or did to not get the job.
 
They said to re apply in 3 months,THe first two portions went great, even the first line captain said i did well, but in the HR portion, i was asked no HR at all. It was as if they had no intent on hiring me then, seems like on the other gouges ive read they ask questions asking how you will fit in when they hire you, i got none of that. I went in and got fired question after question, two i had to just admit to not knowing, what QNH was and what would it mean if i saw CAVOK on a metar. You know at that part of the day i thought the tech part was over, but I was wrong. Heard of QNH and couldnt recall and Ive never heard of CAVOK, but now i know clear skies and vis ok. I will try again in 3 months, meanwhile i have a class date for the 24th with flight express. Cheers
 
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