my training so far at dca

Hobo,
Call me crazy but I love being an optimist and I always try to think positive. For me being a positive thinker has gotten me to where I'm at in my life at this point. Anyhow, getting back to that job oppportunity as a salesman that I would like to do on the side when I'm not flying or studying, I had the interview this afternoon. I thought the interview went pretty well and I hope I get an opportunity to try at it. The manager of the store told me its a two step process, he still has two more interviews this week and from there he will recomend and pass it up to his regional manager who then makes the final decession. Can you believe the training is three weeks long ? The earning potential is there and he says you can make an average of $50K to $100K a year. I hope I get the job?? That would be a great way to make some extra $$. The work schedule is from 1 p.m to 9 p.m. I have all morning to do my flying from 7 a.m to 11:30 a.m .and on my two days off I can fly anytime and even at night once I start my instrument ratings.. I'm excited !! Wish me luck...LOL..

Nalu
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Thanks! I must manage my time wisely and I can always give it up if its starts to affect my flight training. I just thought its a good side job that has good earning potential and it sure beats delivering pizza or other sorts of part time jobs.

Nalu
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Oh yeah by the way don't you think we have so much time after flying and studying? I fly almost every day and even twice a day. I'm doing all this at my part 61 school. May as well make some extra cash $$ on the side for a rainy day....LOL...

Nalu
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my private training without books and materials cost $11174.10

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HOLY S**T!!! I can name about 3 schools in the area that could get that done for 5 grand easily with books, supplies and a DE included.

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my instrument training again without books was $16330.84

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unbelievable. you could get the same thing for around 6-7 grand round these parts.

same FAA prints out my certificate.

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WOW! DCA is expensive? Oh my goodness! Who knew it!? Old news homegrown.

Hobo, sounds like your on the right track man! Keep up the good job, good luck with the training and if I can help, let me know! See ya
 
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WOW! DCA is expensive? Oh my goodness!

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No. It's more than expensive!! It's overpriced. Way overpriced!!
 
Yeah. I knew it was expensive but had no idea DCA guys paid $11174 for a PPL and 46 hours of flight time in a 172. I guess it's old news to you but people interested in DCA might want to see the reality of one persons experience.

I thank hobo for posting the facts and hope he keeps us up on his DCA experiences, much like H46bubba did.
 
thanks nixon i do hope im on the right track. and thanks ups youre right that i just wanted to post this so that people could see a clear cut example of what one person is spending to go to DCA.
i noticed last night when i was looking thru my account that i added wrong for my ppl and in fact it took 11649 but oh well its only money right?
anyone else from DCA want to weigh in with what they spent on each rating?
i was talking with my instructor today and his training cost 62000 but he only had to finish up his ppl part 61 which took less than 10 hours of flying and he hasnt done his MEI yet and thats estimated at 5330 so he finished on about the same track as i am on.
any instructors that have done their MEI feel free to give us a break down of what it actually took you.
I just dont like that ive met students that had no idea what DCA would cost. not sure how they managed that or didnt investigate enough and im disappointed that the info isnt more readily available.
 
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I knew it was expensive but had no idea DCA guys paid $11174 for a PPL and 46 hours of flight time in a 172. .

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Wow.........that's pretty mind blowing.
 
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total time: 134.0 Airplane SEL: 134.0 complex: 0 Multi: 0
landings: 194d 35n night: 19.7 actual IMC: 7.7 simulated/hood: 38.9 approaches: 41 FTD/simulator: 21.7
PCATD: 13.3 Xcountry: 37.5 Solo: 16.5 PIC: 93 Dual: 117.5


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Here's mine!
TT:284.7, ASEL:284.7, Complex:16.1, Landings:438D/78N, Night:41.5, Actual:17.1, Simulated:60.6, Approaches:93, FTD/Sim:20.3, Xcnty:70.2, Solo:105.7, PIC:219.3, Dual:162.7
 
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good luck man but beware of letting your job get in the way of your dream of flying

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Ohio University (in Athens, Ohio) has a much better program than O.S.U.

Plus, I believe they have some program worked out now with AirNet Express for graduates.

It's a great school as well, horrible football team, but a great school!
 
OU does have a great program. a friend on mine went there and then went to ups for a while then to a major.

a lot of colleges have programs for flying and thats something anyone who hasnt gone to college and wants to fly should consider. first you can get government grants and loans that beat the heck out of key bank loans. second its usually cheaper b/c of how the college does tuition. third why pay 100,000 for just your ratings when you could go to a state school like OU and come out with a degree and less than 20k in loans if you have any at all. wish i had gone that route. i wonder why im paying so much for my training
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...and then went to ups for a while then to a major.

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(I sure hope DE doesn't see that...)
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I don't really care. I get asked quite often when I'm going to transfer to commercial flying....

As an aside: I got hired in Feb 1990 at UPS. We lost about one fourth of my indoc class pretty quick. I remember guys leaving for United, America West, Southwest (that was a girl, actually), and corporate. I remember one that wanted to get on with US Air so bad that he got himself fired for no showing two trips. Not sure what happened after that.

Back in those days, UPS wasn't considered that good of a job. Funny how things change.....
 
i didnt mean that as anything bad about UPS, my friend just chose a different route. he got what he wanted and never said anything negative about UPS. he spoke very highly of his time there.
 
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OU does have a great program. a friend on mine went there and then went to ups for a while then to a major.

a lot of colleges have programs for flying and thats something anyone who hasnt gone to college and wants to fly should consider. first you can get government grants and loans that beat the heck out of key bank loans. second its usually cheaper b/c of how the college does tuition. third why pay 100,000 for just your ratings when you could go to a state school like OU and come out with a degree and less than 20k in loans if you have any at all. wish i had gone that route. i wonder why im paying so much for my training
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First, let me state that you are very correct here, Hobo. I graduated from O.U.'s program with a degree, and the training was much less expensive. The program is state subsidized, so they are able to charge less for aircraft and instructor time. Hell, when I was there (not long ago), I could rent a 172R for $65. The program was great and the training was great.

And yes, I walked out with $16,000 in loan debt. However, that number would be extremely higher if I didn't have such generous parents to help me with tuition.
 
how many ratings did you get done at OU?

man 16k makes me cry. my parents werent too generous with me(spent it all on my two brothers) so i finished college with 65000 in loans. that would have been okay if I had majored in something useful like business and gone with my friends who made 100k their first year but instead i chose to be poor. at least ill have an office with a better view
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Here is what I have spent so far at DCA....

I started in September 2004 - zero time

Private - $15,950 - 74.0 Hours - 3 months all in a 172
Instrument - $18,185 - 64.4 Hours - 3 months
Commercial/Single - 20,464 - 85.8 hours total (29.2 Complex)- 3 months
Multi - $15,125 - 42.5 Hours - 9 weeks (a bit more than it shold have been - I had a jerk of an instructor and then some challenges with my checkride)
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So, in 1 year, I have completed 4 ratings at a cost just shy of 70,000 and 273 total hours

The costs listed include flight time as well as FTD/PCATD, ground school, instructor and ground work.

Drop Out rates - of the 12 in my private class last year 2 have droped out. 1 Has already completed and just completed Stanz class this past week, the rest of us are in CFI or CFII.
 
"Private - $15,950 - 74.0 Hours - 3 months all in a 172"

$215 an hour for a 172. Do you think it's worth it? Knowing what you know now, would you do it all over?
 
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"Private - $15,950 - 74.0 Hours - 3 months all in a 172"

$215 an hour for a 172. Do you think it's worth it? Knowing what you know now, would you do it all over?

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Yes I would do it all over again - but the second time around I would have a lot lower time - and therefore it would be less costly
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a C/172 at DCA runs 99/hour - with Instructor and Fuel Surcharge its 156/hour.

The 15,950 I paid for Private also included ground school, ground work w/instructor, a few trips in the Frasca and the ACR charge at the end of Course.
 
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