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Oxman

Oxman

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OK, unfortunately my gig for Saudi Arabia ended and I'm back to looking. UGH. I can't move so it has to be commutable/home based from Nashville. If anyone knows of a "Mission" based opening let me know. When I say "mission" based it just means, Aerial mapping, industrial flying, cloud seeding etc. I've never been an airline person which is why I've stayed away and enjoyed mission/product flying. Flying out of an FBO beats out of a terminal (for me). Luckily, to get me out of the house I have my Armed Private Security gig to hold me over until.
 
Oxman said:
OK, unfortunately my gig for Saudi Arabia ended and I'm back to looking. UGH. I can't move so it has to be commutable/home based from Nashville. If anyone knows of a "Mission" based opening let me know. When I say "mission" based it just means, Aerial mapping, industrial flying, cloud seeding etc. I've never been an airline person which is why I've stayed away and enjoyed mission/product flying. Flying out of an FBO beats out of a terminal (for me). Luckily, to get me out of the house I have my Armed Private Security gig to hold me over until.
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Are the fractionals of interest to you? Something like Netjets or Flexjet? It checks a lot of your boxes.
 
Oxman said:
OK, unfortunately my gig for Saudi Arabia ended and I'm back to looking. UGH. I can't move so it has to be commutable/home based from Nashville. If anyone knows of a "Mission" based opening let me know.
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Being unemployed myself, not sure how much I can help. But regardless, PM me your number and I can at least try to put you in touch with some folks I know.
 
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killbilly said:
Are the fractionals of interest to you? Something like Netjets or Flexjet? It checks a lot of your boxes.
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I did 135 in two different Citations and it kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. Both times I had customers treat me like I was beneath them. A customer started throwing grapes because they weren't washed! I had one lady who I flew regularly flippantly flip her wet umbrella at me while she was walking up the stairs. The "Oh crap" look the captain had on his face when he saw my eyes dilate in anger. But I think that is rich-rich people. I think a PC-12 spot (considering I have time in one OCONUS) would be fun.
 
KaiGywer said:
My 135 employer is hiring at 2000TT/200 multi with ATP complete. Homebased with airline "commute" to meet the plane. We have a few pilots living in the Nashville area and you might even get a night at home from time to time.
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PM me. I'm well over all of those times.
 
Oxman said:
I did 135 in two different Citations and it kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. Both times I had customers treat me like I was beneath them. A customer started throwing grapes because they weren't washed! I had one lady who I flew regularly flippantly flip her wet umbrella at me while she was walking up the stairs. The "Oh crap" look the captain had on his face when he saw my eyes dilate in anger. But I think that is rich-rich people. I think a PC-12 spot (considering I have time in one OCONUS) would be fun.
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You are a better man than me. None of them would have walked away from any of those interactions with any question in their minds about who the superior human was.
 
Oxman said:
I did 135 in two different Citations and it kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. Both times I had customers treat me like I was beneath them. A customer started throwing grapes because they weren't washed! I had one lady who I flew regularly flippantly flip her wet umbrella at me while she was walking up the stairs. The "Oh crap" look the captain had on his face when he saw my eyes dilate in anger. But I think that is rich-rich people. I think a PC-12 spot (considering I have time in one OCONUS) would be fun.
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91 corporate is the only way to go. Owners. Not renters. I understand I’m not going to be in the will but no one throws grapes at me. The biggest gripe I have is indifference. Not sticking to a scheduled timeline hurts my brain.
 
Oxman said:
I did 135 in two different Citations and it kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. Both times I had customers treat me like I was beneath them. A customer started throwing grapes because they weren't washed! I had one lady who I flew regularly flippantly flip her wet umbrella at me while she was walking up the stairs. The "Oh crap" look the captain had on his face when he saw my eyes dilate in anger. But I think that is rich-rich people. I think a PC-12 spot (considering I have time in one OCONUS) would be fun.
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That was a terrible experience - really sorry you had to deal with that.

I'd urge you to talk to some of the NJ/FJ pilots, though. I've spoken with quite a few, anecdotally of course, and we certainly have a number of ex-Part 91 fractional pilots at my current 121.

Several things were common among all of them: they did work hard, they loved the aircraft and the company support they got, not having to sweat a commute was a godsend, and knowing their schedule a year in advance made life much easier on them and their families. Most of the customer experiences seemed to be positive ones. I have no direct experience here, but I got the sense that the badly behaved customers didn't really last long as customers within those companies, but that's strictly conjecture on my part.

Looking into it costs you nothing, and I'd hate for that 135 experience to automatically shut a different door for you.
 
Are you looking at any particular type of schedule? Rotational versus the random nature of 91 departments? Do you have a minimum number of days off you're looking for or require schedule flexibility? With your kind of experience the 135 government contracting business could be a good fit, and you'd definitely stand out from the average applicant. The only issue with it is, just like 91 flight departments, the companies come in a variety of shapes and sizes all offering something a little bit different in terms of pay, schedules, and equipment. There are some very lucrative options out there in that field if you're willing to live the lifestyle. As far as passengers, from my experience they've always been super respectful and thankful that you're taking them where they need to be. This was true for everyone from the State Department couriers to the Ambassadors and Generals.
 
luke3 said:
Are you looking at any particular type of schedule? Rotational versus the random nature of 91 departments? Do you have a minimum number of days off you're looking for or require schedule flexibility? With your kind of experience the 135 government contracting business could be a good fit, and you'd definitely stand out from the average applicant. The only issue with it is, just like 91 flight departments, the companies come in a variety of shapes and sizes all offering something a little bit different in terms of pay, schedules, and equipment. There are some very lucrative options out there in that field if you're willing to live the lifestyle. As far as passengers, from my experience they've always been super respectful and thankful that you're taking them where they need to be. This was true for everyone from the State Department couriers to the Ambassadors and Generals.
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This is so true. I've been OCONUS Contracting for the last seven years and Gov't 135 is the Schnizzle. My schedules (CONUS and OCUNS) CONUS: have ranged from 8/6, 14/14. OCONUS: 60/60, 90/90, 45/45. So any schedule works. And I've slept in tents sectioned off in plywood for 6 of us to having my own room and walking in the rain at 2am to the port-a-potty. And I miss it. Flying military special operators who move like a school of fish when I point in a direction is a pleasure when compared to people who wander up and down an aisle wondering what 34B on their ticket means or dealing with "I'm better than you" ass hats.
 
killbilly said:
That was a terrible experience - really sorry you had to deal with that.

I'd urge you to talk to some of the NJ/FJ pilots, though. I've spoken with quite a few, anecdotally of course, and we certainly have a number of ex-Part 91 fractional pilots at my current 121.

Several things were common among all of them: they did work hard, they loved the aircraft and the company support they got, not having to sweat a commute was a godsend, and knowing their schedule a year in advance made life much easier on them and their families. Most of the customer experiences seemed to be positive ones. I have no direct experience here, but I got the sense that the badly behaved customers didn't really last long as customers within those companies, but that's strictly conjecture on my part.

Looking into it costs you nothing, and I'd hate for that 135 experience to automatically shut a different door for you.
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I am definitely (I just spelled Definitely correctly for the first time) open to PC-12 135 opening. That is a stupid proof plane and I loved my time in it.
 
///AMG said:
You are a better man than me. None of them would have walked away from any of those interactions with any question in their minds about who the superior human was.
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It really pushed my buttons. The captain almost panicked when he saw me react. I immediately pointed at him and told him "I'M DONE!" As a former cop, it really set my personal temper off. I let the employment contract run out and found a new career path in OCONUS contracting.
 
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