Most difficult instrument approaches

MikeD said:
Dotted line is the procedural track portion of a jet penetration.


Check a few of the Distant Early Warning stations and their IAPs. They have the warning of "Successful Go Around Improbable" due to their location. The field is usually located on a mountaintop side, with the runway at 7% or greater. Air Stations with these warnings include Earacksen AS, Cape Newenham AFS, Cape Romanzof AFS. There's restrictions as to what kind of aircraft can operate out of these stations as well as crew experience. Normally, you'll only see C-7/C-123/C-130 aircraft.
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WOW! Excellent picks MikeD! Here's a couple of the plates:

Cape newenham AFS:
http://map.aeroplanner.com/apt/6/NIMA/alaska/cape%5Fnewenham%5Flrrs%5F%5Fpaeh/ndbdme%5Frwy%5F14%2Epdf
Cape Romanzof AFS:
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0604/02326ND2.PDF

On another note, try this approach into Martin State, MD. You arc all the way to final! A bit different than what the normal student (or the normal pilot for that matter) will see on a day to day basis: http://map.aeroplanner.com/plates/FaaPlates_pdfs/05222VDTZ15.PDF
 
ColMustard said:
I've found any LOC you do partial panel really challenges your scan, especially if there's a big altitude loss from the FAF to the MAP.

-ColM
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Try a few partial panel NDB holds followed by a partial panel NDB approach. You'll think partial panel anything else is the easiest thing in the world.
 
That looks pretty challenging in the mounatinous terrain. Dang I like the KPIM one though, a reverse DME Arc is pretty cool.
 
Man if you ever tried that into Georgia. Low IFR doing the circling approach adds to the caos. It is fun to do though.
 
Man thanks for the spell check there buddy. I don't learn enough up here in North DAkota.
 
Man I haven't been on these posts long enough, I think we need to mention that to CaptainChris a couple more times. HAHA!!!
 
sorrygottarunway said:
I always liked the ILS 1 at DCA followed by a last minute "can you circle to land on 33?" call from the tower. The approach to 19 is just as interesting.
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Speaking of this, has everybody been getting slammed on the ELDEE 1? The last few times I shot it and was on the "downwind" still north of the bridge at 6000 and the give you a 150 heading followed by a 90 heading and by then it's all over.
 
I have a question who uses the RNAV (RNP) approaches? Because I saw a weird one into Palms Springs and wasn't sure. I thought this one was for FMS people but ain't sure. Thanks
 
BobDDuck said:
Speaking of this, has everybody been getting slammed on the ELDEE 1? The last few times I shot it and was on the "downwind" still north of the bridge at 6000 and the give you a 150 heading followed by a 90 heading and by then it's all over.
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Yes.

I would assume its harder for a jet to do than a turboprop, unless the spoilers get some action.

The saab falls out of the sky fully configured with no power in.
 
airplanerik said:
Speaking of spell check, is there a way to use a spell checker before submitting a post?
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There should be "AA" looking thing to the left of the "fonts" selector if you're using IE and XP.
 
Chris_Ford said:
Looks like that arc puts you through the restricted area sort of... Care to explain, if you know?
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If you are shooting the approach you are IFR. It is the controllers responsibility to coordinate transition of any restricted airspace, or keep you clear if needed.
 
casey said:
If you are shooting the approach you are IFR. It is the controllers responsibility to coordinate transition of any restricted airspace, or keep you clear if needed.
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It's your sole responsibility as pilot-in-command.

Else we wouldn't have pilots every week that bust P-56 on arrival/departure at KDCA.
 
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