More than one way to skin that cat...

Got our butts kicked this morning coming into Teterboro. Fair amount of moderate turbulence getting vectored for the approach and one good solid jolt that partially emptied the seat backs throughout the plane. Not pleasant.

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This was more of a widespread system than the line we had to cross the other day. Interesting that the results were kind of opposite of what I'd normally expect as far as catching nasty turbulence.



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SteveC said:
Got our butts kicked this morning coming into Teterboro. Fair amount of moderate turbulence getting vectored for the approach and one good solid jolt that partially emptied the seat backs throughout the plane. Not pleasant.

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This was more of a widespread system than the line we had to cross the other day. Interesting that the results were kind of opposite of what I'd normally expect as far as catching nasty turbulence.



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Probably more embedded on this day too? The worst kind.
 
UAL747400 said:
Nah, drop down to 2000agl, update the radar on the phone, talk to FSS/ATC, change the route, land and wait for it to pass, ect...
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I was never flying radar equipped planes and ATC tended to be pretty useless in most situations- I'd be flying through precip so heavy that I was sure the nose cone was going to implode, seeing lightning flashes in the cloud that I'm flying through, getting beat up, ask ATC if they have in wx info for me and usually hear "I'm not really showing anything on my scope right now."

FSS/flight watch is excruciatingly slow to provide info, not to mention that they don't really have a good fix on your precise position.

Company dispatch was always good for a laugh: "Convective sigmet is still valid,but the radar picture doesn't look too bad. You're released. Call us airborne."
 
z987k said:
If you do it day in day out for years, it's not luck. No one is lucky that much.
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Here's a hook echo (torando). It was on the ground. A good 10-15 miles from the main storm. You think ATC has the fidelity in their RADAR to see hook echos? HAHAHA

It is this tornado, you can watch a video of it here, time stamps match up:
http://www.wral.com/news/video/7484372/#/vid7484372

This was in the evening, still light out, but it easily can be nighttime. You figure hey, I'm 10-15 miles away, should be good...
 

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Never at any point did I say I was going INTO anything. FSS, ATC, and the phone are perfectly adequate for avoiding. Not surprised with the Delta flight but I don't have kind words to say about the way a lot of pilots deal with convective activity. 10-15 miles is too close. 1 mile for every knot of wind aloft at the core(8-12k feet) is a good starting point
 
UAL747400 said:
Never at any point did I say I was going INTO anything. FSS, ATC, and the phone are perfectly adequate for avoiding. Not surprised with the Delta flight but I don't have kind words to say about the way a lot of pilots deal with convective activity. 10-15 miles is too close. 1 mile for every knot of wind aloft at the core(8-12k feet) is a good starting point
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Most professional pilots don't have the option of landing and calling on the phone. You shouldn't be flying around convective activity without a radar. Yes I flew freight and I never dispatched without SOME form of onboard radar when thunderstorms were around. We all have war stories but If you get your jollies off going in and around that stuff you better love flying 135 freight for the rest of your career.
 
UAL747400 said:
Never at any point did I say I was going INTO anything. FSS, ATC, and the phone are perfectly adequate for avoiding. Not surprised with the Delta flight but I don't have kind words to say about the way a lot of pilots deal with convective activity. 10-15 miles is too close. 1 mile for every knot of wind aloft at the core(8-12k feet) is a good starting point
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I'd be impressed with someone if they could maintain 40-50 mile wide berth around storms without RADAR and actually get somewhere during storm season. You'd be sitting around playing Angry Birds on your phone on the ramp the entire afternoon and evening in the SE/east coast during the summer...
 
mikecweb said:
Most professional pilots don't have the option of landing and calling on the phone. You shouldn't be flying around convective activity without a radar. Yes I flew freight and I never dispatched without SOME form of onboard radar when thunderstorms were around. We all have war stories but If you get your jollies off going in and around that stuff you better love flying 135 freight for the rest of your career.
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I've only landed to wait for a line to cross over and that's only because I'm stuck down low. I'm talking about refreshing the radar display on the phone. ;) I don't get my jollies off on it at all. I work with nothing but "tough guys", I'm quite the opposite.
 
wheelsup said:
I'd be impressed with someone if they could maintain 40-50 mile wide berth around storms without RADAR and actually get somewhere during storm season. You'd be sitting around playing Angry Birds on your phone on the ramp the entire afternoon and evening in the SE/east coast during the summer...
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For thunderstorms:
-Number of times I've cancelled: 0
-Number of times I've been more than 5 minutes late: 2
-Number of times I've been a half hour late or less: 7
-Number of times I've been more than a half our late: 1

Come on man, it's not that hard. Go where it's not going to be! :)
 
wheelsup said:
I'd be impressed with someone if they could maintain 40-50 mile wide berth around storms without RADAR and actually get somewhere during storm season. You'd be sitting around playing Angry Birds on your phone on the ramp the entire afternoon and evening in the SE/east coast during the summer...
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lol, theres such a thing as east coast storms? Spend much time in TX or OK?
 
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