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Murdoughnut

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Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I understand how traditional union FAs would object to something that discourages seniority. On the other, traditional union agreements have always been tipped towards senior employees, so maybe this just shifts who gets screwed.

Including basic housing in addition to the $1,200 a month is interesting. If they're trying to land young people who will have fun and then move on, this seems to be a pretty attractive offer (with the $6K tuition assistance).

 
A few things....

-Flight Attendants were the first to unionize at Neeleman's last US startup out of all the employee groups.

-$6000 isn't a lot of tuition assistance.

-In the last year the unions have lead the way to get the government funding to make sure EVERYONE stayed employed/got paid during the pandemic.

-$1200 a month??? Wonder how much the passengers of of American 383 or British Airways 2276 thought the Flight Attendants were worth after they had to evacuate an aircraft on fire on the runway.
 
Have they released their routes yet? I am curious where they’ll be flying to from ISP. If I can fly out of ISP instead of LGA/JFK sign me the eff up.
 
A few things....

-Flight Attendants were the first to unionize at Neeleman's last US startup out of all the employee groups.

-$6000 isn't a lot of tuition assistance.

-In the last year the unions have lead the way to get the government funding to make sure EVERYONE stayed employed/got paid during the pandemic.

-$1200 a month??? Wonder how much the passengers of of American 383 or British Airways 2276 thought the Flight Attendants were worth after they had to evacuate an aircraft on fire on the runway.

I was testing whether you received a notification anytime the word "union" was typed into JC :D

Did pilot unions protest when newly hired pilots were making that much? (honest question, I don't know the history there).
 
I was testing whether you received a notification anytime the word "union" was typed into JC :D

Did pilot unions protest when newly hired pilots were making that much? (honest question, I don't know the history there).

HA!

Good question. Back when JetBlue was starting up ALPA had their head up their ass (remember this was in 2000) and honestly didn't care about New Co.

Fast forward to when Virgin America was starting up, the head was being removed from the ass, and they were a lot more vocal concerning the Virgin America wages and organized them in a relatively quick timeframe from when they started.
 
Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I understand how traditional union FAs would object to something that discourages seniority. On the other, traditional union agreements have always been tipped towards senior employees, so maybe this just shifts who gets screwed.

Including basic housing in addition to the $1,200 a month is interesting. If they're trying to land young people who will have fun and then move on, this seems to be a pretty attractive offer (with the $6K tuition assistance).


Pretty sure this is going to be sold as something to do while these girls wait around for their boyfriends to come back from their missions.
 
Interesting scheme to get around labor laws it seems, sadly enough will apply but having 'interns' be your workforce at poverty wages is pretty disgusting.
 
Interesting scheme to get around labor laws it seems, sadly enough will apply but having 'interns' be your workforce at poverty wages is pretty disgusting.

Yeah that is the thing. I am not sure the FAA or Department of Labor is going to sign off on it.
 
Interesting scheme to get around labor laws it seems, sadly enough will apply but having 'interns' be your workforce at poverty wages is pretty disgusting.
Yeah that is the thing. I am not sure the FAA or Department of Labor is going to sign off on it.

They could get away with $9/hr Beech 1900 copilots through Gulfstream training academy.

On an interesting side note, it's amazing to see jetBlue FAs and Virgin FAs organize and vote in a union before their individual respective pilot groups did.
 
Oh ok. Then just in our case, the FAs unionized before the pilots did. Sad thing is during the FA drive some pilots were trying to convince the FAs to keep VX union-free and to vote no.
 
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