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ClearedForOption

ClearedForOption

Displaced... again.
To all my Azul siblings, I wish you all the best of luck over the next 3 weeks as we await the results of the staffing changes. 18 hours from closure and I'm still undecided about my percentages. All I do know is that there is a unwanted/undesirable transcon commute in my future as I get displaced yet again. This time for years unless something changes.

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Apologies, can you provide more context about this post? I’m getting the impression this is not a post about the Brazilian LCC, “Azul.”

What conditions are occurring to cause a Monkey of All Bids?
 
It’s not fun. I don’t envy you this at all. Bidding SQ, I hope? That’s commutable on both sides isn’t it?
 
jtrain609 said:
It's also a red eye on both sides.
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Yep. I don't think I can do it. I analyzed all the pairings, I'm too junior to do the fun ones... i.e. 4 day/48 hr layovers. And even those, that's a lot of life-force and mana drain on either end of the trips. If I was in base, that's one thing. But, I live on Cali time. That's my red-eye survival mechanism. Red eyes are pink eyes. The back end of all of the Euro trips are no-kidding red eyes for my body clock. The 24 hour layovers are also so anti-fatigue science.

My bid will be as follows:
LA CA
JFK BUS CA
and a whole bunch of other stuff as a backup, but I'll hold JFK, so it's just filler.

I'll have to eat crepes in PUJ and UVF instead of Paris.

I'll get my 15 year pin a little bit after the "official" effective day and I'll be back on the transcon commute.

I also know that compared to my azulNorte siblings having to choose which base that "isn't home" where I can basically be a CA lineholder anywhere is a total 1st world problem. It just sucks because I've been quite happy in my little corner over here, bidding reserve, the occasional line, and driving to work. It really has been "livin' the dream."

killbilly said:
It’s not fun. I don’t envy you this at all. Bidding SQ, I hope? That’s commutable on both sides isn’t it?
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Naah. Domestic. I soooooo want to do Europe. Badly. It's new. It's a box that I've wanted to check for years. Beantown would be my best bet, but the commute is no bueno. The living situation is no bueno.

I think that I'm gonna buy a place in New York. Buy quality of life off of the E-Train. Forest Hills maybe? Join a co-op cult. I sort of saved up for it the last time I was in JFK, then I got out.

I'm sure that the industry won't remain static, but the snapshot math of me getting back in to my present domicile is this: At the seniority that I'll be able to get back in, being the plug, I'll be able to hold 2 weekends off, all 2-3 day, all island/all-inclusive trips, all holidays. I'll also have 4 weeks of vacation... and be able to hold 2 full months off/year under the current model. A "desirable" month... summer/holiday and a medium trough month. So, it becomes different math then once I've been doing the commute again for the next 5-7 years.

Once I've tasted "the good life" - it'll be hard to go back to being junior RSV. But who knows.
 
Minuteman said:
Apologies, can you provide more context about this post? I’m getting the impression this is not a post about the Brazilian LCC, “Azul.”

What conditions are occurring to cause a Monkey of All Bids?
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Not really, because IFKYK. And anyway, this is all hypothetical, virtual, and fictional.

Lots of opinions in another thread about #2. I have mine, I typically only share it during the post-flight carbohydrate debrief.
 
If hypothetically every LA Capt bids to stay in base, what’s the most junior LA CA plug DOH after the new base numbers?

Is there any chance you might remain in LA? How far from the 85-ish new bottom are you?
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
If hypothetically every LA Capt bids to stay in base, what’s the most junior LA CA plug DOH after the new base numbers?

Is there any chance you might remain in LA? How far from the 85-ish new bottom are you?
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I haven't figured that out.

0%. I'm exactly in the middle of everyone getting the ax. Based on retirements, minimum of 5 years, most likely 6-6.5 (7 at the outset) to get back in. For me, that'll be right at 20 years and ~22% on the master list.
 
ClearedForOption said:
I haven't figured that out.

0%. I'm exactly in the middle of everyone getting the ax. Based on retirements, minimum of 5 years, most likely 6-6.5 (7 at the outset) to get back in. For me, that'll be right at 20 years and ~22% on the master list.
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What about bidding LAX FO and back to the left seat in a few years when things pick up?
 
Skåning said:
What about bidding LAX FO and back to the left seat in a few years when things pick up?
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Even with the added cost of the transcon commute the pay cut is too substantial. Theoretically, you have to credit 108 hrs to match the RSV guarantee - and that's before holiday, vacation, anything... if you use a typical transcon as an example, that still equates to 19 "days" of being on the road a month. There is also a big retirement hit with the DC and I'll be playing catchup till I'm 65.

That's before me even saying, "I like the view from the left" and the stuff that comes with the 4th stripe. And knowing (roughly) how many people are going to take the QOL downgrade - my seniority from the right wouldn't be super at all. To be perfectly honest, I don't want to work that hard and live on trip trading software while at home. Schedule improvement becomes it's own full time job.
 
ClearedForOption said:
To all my Azul siblings, I wish you all the best of luck over the next 3 weeks as we await the results of the staffing changes. 18 hours from closure and I'm still undecided about my percentages. All I do know is that there is a unwanted/undesirable transcon commute in my future as I get displaced yet again. This time for years unless something changes.
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Feel for you hombre. Hopefully you can get back sooner than you think. When they closed the 190 in MCO, I got displaced to FLL and was expecting to be there at least 3-4 years. To my surprise I was able to get back in 8 months. I have SJU as my involuntary bid because no one knows how this will shake up. Best of luck to all of us.
 
Soul Brotha' said:
Feel for you hombre. Hopefully you can get back sooner than you think. When they closed the 190 in MCO, I got displaced to FLL and was expecting to be there at least 3-4 years. To my surprise I was able to get back in 8 months. I have SJU as my involuntary bid because no one knows how this will shake up. Best of luck to all of us.
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I’ve been a bit worried that I’m going to get displaced to SJU but I’m starting to come around to the idea some if it happens. I think I’ve got *just enough* seniority to avoid it. My main concern would be finding a pad there.
 
killbilly said:
I’ve been a bit worried that I’m going to get displaced to SJU but I’m starting to come around to the idea some if it happens. I think I’ve got *just enough* seniority to avoid it. My main concern would be finding a pad there.
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I feel confident that you’ll be fine. I’m pretty sure I will be ok also. It’s just that uneasy feeling of waiting for the results.
 
What is managements perceived or otherwise benefit to having a SJU base?

Best of luck to all you.
 
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