Military time and Corporate flying

Boltonpilot

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I'm looking around at posts from the past and I'm seeing that corporate departments tend to like seeing pilots with charter time, but if you walked up to them when you're fresh from flying for the military, does anyone think that they would hire you, or would they look for somone who has more experience with "the customers"?
 
Typically most Corporate operators prefer the "customer" orientation... My company has one guy (Navy Pilot) who was hired year ago straight out of the Navy... took him a while to adapt.. My company really looks at pilots with either a Charter or other Corporate background...
 
The only companies that are not military friendly are the ones operated by someone who has never served, my opinion ( just that, my opinion) sometimes there is anamosity, because the military pilot was paid to earn his or her ratings. It boils down to those that fly in the Armed Forces and those that wanted to. Remember you are the top 10 % of all the Armed Forces.So do not let anyone tell you that you can't adapt.
 
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...It boils down to those that fly in the Armed Forces and those that wanted to....

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Except for us odd ducks that never did and never wanted to.
Still don't.
Don't regret it, either.
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I think it comes down to a few things, Pilot skill and competence, attitude, willingness to adapt to a new enviroment. Back ground experience will get you an interview but personality will get you a corporate job.

My background was primarilly military and let me tell you this, no one understands customer service better.

When I flew attack my "customer" was the ground commander and his troops, and if I couldn't put steel on target I had a very unhappy customer, perhaps more so than the charter guy who stocked coke instead of pepsi.

After flying attack I moved to VIP flight flying the Generals and thier staffers. Again I needed a full understanding of being on time and anticipating my "customer's" needs. For all intents and purposes VIP flying is corporate flying with a military uniform on. I had a corporate job offer on the table for 2yrs before I left active duty to accept my first full time corporate gig.

It depends a lot on your background, my flying in multiple crewed aircraft and the flight profiles lended itself very well into corporate flying. If a pilot is coming out of single seat fighters it may be more difficult to adapt to the shared responsabilities in a modern two crew aircraft, or for that matter the pilot who flew large aircraft and had the luxury of assigned crewmembers to do the extra duties not directly associated with flying the aircraft.

The argument could also be made ( Falcon Capt correct me if I'm wrong ), that furloughed airline pilots are not neccessarily the best choice for corporate flight depts. They are more than qualified to fly the airplanes but some find it beneath them to shlept bags or be willing to alter thier schedules based on the customer's desires.

There is no one correct answer or solution to this career field, there are only things that one can do to make himself a better candidate. The first is get a degree, and I strongly recomend one not in aviation. After that it comes down to experiences and attitude and preparation. Good Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

Jim
 
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It boils down to those that fly in the Armed Forces and those that wanted to.

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So, you're saying that everyone that doesn't or hasn't flown for the military wanted to?

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Remember you are the top 10 % of all the Armed Forces.So do not let anyone tell you that you can't adapt.

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I'd have to disagree there - I personally know people that were/are top notch officers that decided to become infantry officers or supply officers. Not everybody wants to fly...
 
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The only companies that are not military friendly are the ones operated by someone who has never served, my opinion ( just that, my opinion) sometimes there is anamosity, because the military pilot was paid to earn his or her ratings. It boils down to those that fly in the Armed Forces and those that wanted to. Remember you are the top 10 % of all the Armed Forces.So do not let anyone tell you that you can't adapt.

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Guys like you are the reason that some charter companies shy away from military pilots. Moreover, there is no anamosity between civilian pilots and miltary pilots because you guys got paid for training. Miltary pilots pay for the training by there contracted service period. Some people just don't want to train for one year, then serve another 10 while only flying a couple hundred hours a year. It's tough to meet the 4000-5000TT of a good corp job if you are a military pilot.
 
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Guys like you are the reason that some charter companies shy away from military pilots. Moreover, there is no anamosity between civilian pilots and miltary pilots because you guys got paid for training. Miltary pilots pay for the training by there contracted service period. Some people just don't want to train for one year, then serve another 10 while only flying a couple hundred hours a year. It's tough to meet the 4000-5000TT of a good corp job if you are a military pilot.

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VERY well said!
 
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Everyone wants to hire me........
....to wash dishes..
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Maybe in a few years they'll be clamoring for you to fly high cover or intercept (or decoy)......
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If a pilot is coming out of single seat fighters it may be more difficult to adapt to the shared responsabilities in a modern two crew aircraft,

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How about the other way of sticking a pilot who flew two pilot all his career into a King Air or Citation single pilot?
 
Well, this topic came up while talking to a corporate pilot who lives near me....he said that some of the pilots are 'Nam vets, who are excellent pilots....he also said that they have a guy from ERAU who is also a very good pilot......basically he said that its not where you receive your training, but how well you were trained, and your own skills, such as organization/management, ability to read and react, and such.....take it for what its worth, and whichever suits your wants, take it.
 
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