Mesa E175 drivers

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at1024 said:
Welcome to Mesa @TexasFlyer. I just finished my first year and I don't have any major complaints thus far. Don't listen to all the haters who pretend to know what it is like to work here. Our training department is wonderful and the pilot group is a solid bunch of guys who stick up for each other. Being a lineholder is better than I thought it would be, at least on the CRJ side. I'm a PHX based FO and even on reserve I had a commutable schedule. I've never had any trouble betting late starts. Obviously this place has it's faults but things have vastly improved since the pre-bankruptcy days. The bottom line is that it is a regional. Approach it as such, don't make a career out of it, and you'll be just fine.
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Thank you for the Welcome. And that is exactly my approach. Hoping this is the gateway into Southwest Airlines eventually. I feel Southwest is a great fit for me since I am a bit eccentric for a pilot being an entrepreneur most of my life. And Southwest is a great place for an eccentric pilot and ex-entrepreneur. Mesa also seems like a good place to fit in since it has been a pleasure each time I commuted SAT to CLT in the jump seat before PSA took that route. The crews I flew with seemed great. I also felt I fit in well at PSA while there. I actually wish I could go back to PSA since I enjoyed it there, but being IAH based puts me so close to home it is the best decision for me and my fiancee and my family at this time. So fingers crossed Mesa holds onto that IAH E175 contract long term.

Oh. And I am use to being hated. I was at PSA in 2013 to 2014. I think I was called all kinds of names for being there. But hey. Look where PSA is today compared to other regionals? Yeah, say how much they brought down the industry and I just say, look at how they have a 1 year upgrade and an SAP process and critical day pay deal that you wished you had Mr hater. Oh, and they are flowing up to American too. So don't hate PSA for being a sleeping giant. They worked hard and made sacrifices like everyone. And today the sleeping giant is growing! Yup. Haters gonna hate. And while I rank PSA as the best wholly owned regional to be at (known commodity to me), I am now proud to soon be wearing Mesa wings. And I sense someday soon Mesa will be the best non-wholly owned place to be as they work to reinvent themself.
 
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TexasFlyer said:
I feel Southwest is a great fit for me since I am a bit eccentric for a pilot being an entrepreneur most of my life. And Southwest is a great place for an eccentric pilot and ex-entrepreneur.
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What about the SWA employee culture, and specifically the SWA pilot group culture, makes you think this? What about being an entrepreneur do you think is eccentric? I think you'll find that major airline pilot groups have some pretty significantly diverse personalities and life experiences, even amongst what seems to be a homogenous set of personality traits and life experience "needed" to get hired in the first place.
 
motormadness24 said:
@TexasFlyer, why did you leave PSA if it was so great?
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My father is very ill with terminal kidney disease and cancer. So I had to have time off to help out at a critical stage. I also did not enjoy commuting and having to maintain a house in Texas and a crashpad in Knoxville. If I felt strongly about PSA in the near future having a Texas base, I would be working there once again. But Texas Does not appear to be a strong possibility for PSA as a base. So Mesa became my choice airline for the IAH base.

The Mesa interview pretty much went like this on e I was asked hy Mesa? i said, "Assign me a start date in the E175 with an IAH base and you got me. If not, I will have to go to Envoy's interview and possibly just return to PSA since if I need to relocate I absolutely would go back to PSA. Commuting via airline is not a pleasant option for me so I will avoid it." I was then assigned a start date on the E175. So I am happy.
 
No coolaid on executive direct hire full desk recruiting. Lets put another way. A way you who doubt will understand.

The general public thinks the average pilot makes 150k to 300k a year and there are rediculous studies out there that even say this. Some foolish high school counselour likely has those stats.

The general public thinks I made only about 50k to 60k as a executive recruiter, and their are silly websites that say such. and oddly, I never made that low a wage. Exceeded that my first full year in the business way back in 1999 and even in the 2002 nightmare for my industry I made more than those numbers people suspect I made as a recruiter. And those silly websites. Well they throw full desk direct hire in the boat with the junk places like Manpower and temp agencies when getting those figures. That is like throwing a regional salary into UPS salary to get an average! The uneducated do this. But the educated know that is a bad stat.

Bottom line, don't make uneducated assumptions. Go talk to those great folks at a solid Management Recruiters franchise or Robert Half Executive Recruiting Division or at Kforce in IT recruiting or at others. You may just then drink that coolaid and make a career change if money is your motivation in life. It will take many years to get a quality of life in that biz, but it can be attained after about 5 years of hard work since then your network will be built if you are great at what you do.

As for my motivation, quality of life and flying airplanes and seeing smiling faces is my final career stretch. That is my motivation at this point in life. A retired headhunter turned airline pilot.
 
Back to the Mesa questions if anyone is still following the original intent of my post.

Starting pay is just over 22 per flight hour I understand. While in training (Indoc and sim and IOE), what is my pay based on?

I think the monthly guarentee at Mesa is 76 hours, but not sure. So I assume I get 22 x 76 for my pay while in training. Which is the guarentee. Is this correct?
 
TexasFlyer said:
The Mesa interview pretty much went like this one I was asked why Mesa? i said, "Assign me a start date in the E175 with an IAH base and you got me. If not, I will have to go to Envoy's interview and possibly just return to PSA since if I need to relocate I absolutely would go back to PSA. Commuting via airline is not a pleasant option for me so I will avoid it." I was then assigned a start date on the E175. So I am happy.
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TexasFlyer said:
Yes, they are. But hiw many 50 seat planes are they running today? The long term projection says they are going away. So you need substantially more fleet replacement than they have currently. Plus XJT is bad for them and will be an ongoing struggle. Plus their business operation from a financial petspective is on a downward trend. And the fact is, if in 2014 you continued to trend downward financially, you are in big trouble long term. The positive is they have a good cash position. So they will survive. But only survival I predict is a reorganization. And that will not be a place I want to be during those changes.

My first career was as CPA. So I analyze financials and industry projections to make my short term assumptions. I then transitioned to headhunting accounting and finance professionals since that is what I knew best. I then over time transitioned into aviation recruiting once I realized a huge need in that niche and I always had the aviation bug. I wanted to be a pilot since I was a child. I am grateful that I can now focus on being an airline pilot due to my past career. I also enjoy helping others break into headhunting if they feel that is their next calling. So there. Just a little about me and where my thoughts on these posts come from.

On that note. It seems this thread got hijacked to be about recruiting. Lets keep it focused on Mesa. I am open to starting a new thread about headhunting if you all sense value in it. Or Just PM me and I will pass on my number. I don't mind sharing my knowledge of that industry. And if you do not want to step out on your own as a headhunter, I can refer you to local firms whete you live and coach you how to possibly transition to that career working as an employee for someone. It really is a great career for a money motivated person if you do it on your own or get into the proper firm.
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The 45 Crj's are leaving per Delta contract. But they have another 100 on order for United.
 
TexasFlyer said:
Back to the Mesa questions if anyone is still following the original intent of my post.

Starting pay is just over 22 per flight hour I understand. While in training (Indoc and sim and IOE), what is my pay based on?

I think the monthly guarentee at Mesa is 76 hours, but not sure. So I assume I get 22 x 76 for my pay while in training. Which is the guarentee. Is this correct?
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You nailed it. $22.18 and 75.83 to be exact. Per diem ($1.44) starts first day of IOE. Company pays for single occupancy hotel from the night before orientation day until your last night of IOE.
 
ClarkGriswold said:
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He's serious, and stop calling him Shirley. Mesa's new philosophy is if you can pass the background check and training you've passed their interview.

PSA also has no interview if you are former 121 with CRJ time. I have ex Acey friends that went from reserve on the CR2 at Acey to upgrading this summer at PSA.
 
Trip7 said:
He's serious, and stop calling him Shirley. Mesa's new philosophy is if you can pass the background check and training you've passed their interview.

PSA also has no interview if you are former 121 with CRJ time. I have ex Acey friends that went from reserve on the CR2 at Acey to upgrading this summer at PSA.
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It frightens the hell out of me that there are airlines out there that aren't interviewing pilots. How is this ok? Think of the some of the more senior nutbags at ASA...that was with interviews.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
It frightens the hell out of me that there are airlines out there that aren't interviewing pilots. How is this ok? Think of the some of the more senior nutbags at ASA...that was with interviews.
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I just see this as nutbags regardless.
 
Dexter said:
I just see this as nutbags regardless.
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Probably. But at least an interview allows you to see if they are giving off a nutbag vibe, presumably meaning they are a bigger nutbag.

Look at it this way...disregarding the financial burden of attaining your ratings it is now more difficult to be hired as a fry cook at McDonald's than to attain a job at Mesa.

I bet I could call every fast food restaurant in my town and read them my resume and zero of them would want to hire me without at least meeting me first.
 
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