Mesa Contract???

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Anyone have any idea (or theories) about the upcoming contract negotiations at Mesa? Strike? Instant Caving to Demands? Something in the middle?

Read this on Travel Industry Wire:
The leaders of five ALPA pilot groups met in Cincinnati last week to develop a common strategy in dealing with current and upcoming contract negotiations with their respective managements.
Capt. J.C. Lawson, Capt. Michael Jayson, Capt. Bill Dressler, Capt. Tom Wychor, and Capt. Dave Nieuwenhuis -- the Master Executive Council (MEC) chairmen of the pilot groups at Comair, Mesa Air Group, ExpressJet, Mesaba, and Atlantic Southeast Airlines -- issued the following statements expressing the unity of their pilot groups.

The August 14th meeting provided a forum for developing a pattern-bargaining approach to negotiations. With the pilots of Atlantic Southeast Airlines poised to enter their sixth year of contract negotiations, the leaders expressed concerns and discussed strategy for this and for Mesa Air Group whose pilots are preparing to enter negotiations in September of this year.

Comair MEC Chairman Capt. J.C. Lawson stated, "This meeting was a tremendous success. By presenting a united front and a common strategy, we will be able to negotiate improved contracts that will reward pilots for all their hard work and dedication."

Mesa Air Group MEC Chairman Capt. Michael Jayson agreed, "Our pilots are frustrated by management's utter disregard for many sections of our current contract and fully appreciate the support we receive across company lines from our fellow ALPA brothers and sisters. By having strategic and successful meetings such as this one, we will maximize our bargaining strength."

ExpressJet MEC Chairman Bill Dressler added, "The success of this meeting allows us to negotiate with confidence with our managements. The era of managements whipsawing pilot groups against each other to compete for flying, at the expense of all pilots, must come to a close."

Atlantic Southeast Airlines MEC Chairman Dave Nieuwenhuis concluded, saying that, "We're putting to bed any notions our respective managements have that they are going be able to pit pilots against each other for their gain. That's just not going to happen."

The meeting of the pilot leaders focused on the common goal of building unity and reaching out to all carriers. While more work remains, the future is coming into focus.

"What happens at one carrier is going to affect pilots at other carriers," Capt. Tom Wychor, MEC Chairman for Mesaba Airlines observed. "If we watch out for one another, we protect ourselves at the same time."

Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world's largest pilot union representing more than 61,000 cockpit crewmembers at 40 airlines in the U.S. and Canada.
 
Interesting article. It'd be cool if meetings like that could actually make a difference. In my opinion, I think negotiations will just drag on forever like they are at ASA... I'm not expecting to see anything change or take place overnight!

It'd be nice to see some actual responses to this thread, instead of it turning into a Mesa-bashing thread for all the cool kids out there.
 
Why is man still the MEC at Comair?
How hard is it to vote someone out?

Harder then you'd think. After our MEC signed two a contract and a side letter that the pilot group voted down by over 80% it took 3 years to recall the MEC. Part of the problem was nobody else wanted to step up and take the job and part of the problem was that the LECs were all buddys with the MEC and wouldn't vote him out. It took 2+ years to replace the LECs and then another year to boot the MEC.
 
A contract negotiation can go on years... don't expect Mesa to give an inch unless forced to. And in the meantime they'll continue to shrink their US pilot workforce to account for attrition and move as many planes as possible to China.
 
Anyone have any idea (or theories) about the upcoming contract negotiations at Mesa? Strike? Instant Caving to Demands? Something in the middle?

Look at it this way - assuming there is no total US airline meltdown there is no way the next Mesa contract will be as "bad" (from the pilots point of view) or "good" (from the companies point of view) as this one. So it's in the companies interest to drag the negotiations out as long as possible - and they will.

From the pilots point of view the faster this thing goes to arbitration and then mediation the better, but even then, even IF the pilots are released to self-help from mediation (and recent case history would indicate that's VERY unlikely) will the Mesa pilot group actually strike is another hard question to judge. But it'll be a good 3-4 years, at it's quickest, before it comes to that decision.
 
Today is day one - The Mesa contract is amendable starting today.

Let the rumors begin... I actually hope for a speedy resolution.

The pay is the pay - that's a dead horse. Already beaten to death over and over again.

But: GDO's going up, B.O.B., 24 in 7 in domicile, 24 in 7 being a calendar day, up the vacation time, adios to the training contract - you won't need it with the new contract, 2 calls from crew sched. during rest and it resets, cnxl pay, 4 hr. per day min guarantee pay, grouped days off, more credit for airport appreciation - rdy reserve, 100% D.H. pay. I hope all of this and more is on the table.
 
Today is day one - The Mesa contract is amendable starting today.

Let the rumors begin... I actually hope for a speedy resolution.

The pay is the pay - that's a dead horse. Already beaten to death over and over again.

But: GDO's going up, B.O.B., 24 in 7 in domicile, 24 in 7 being a calendar day, up the vacation time, adios to the training contract - you won't need it with the new contract, 2 calls from crew sched. during rest and it resets, cnxl pay, 4 hr. per day min guarantee pay, grouped days off, more credit for airport appreciation - rdy reserve, 100% D.H. pay. I hope all of this and more is on the table.

I think your bong is there too.


Best of luck though!
 
Today is day one - The Mesa contract is amendable starting today.

Let the rumors begin... I actually hope for a speedy resolution.

The pay is the pay - that's a dead horse. Already beaten to death over and over again.

True dat - today is also the last pay raise until a new contract gets signed. Too bad that vacation bidding for 2008 hasn't even started yet, even though it's time to bid for 2008 vacation.

Mesa really has no incentive to sign a new contract - it gets more painful for the pilots the longer it takes to get a new contract in place.
 
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