Martinaire at KPSN?

cmill

cmill

Cold Ass Honky
Yeah, I know. Hell of a first post, already asking for info.

Anyway, recently lost my check runnin' route in my trusty steed of a 210, so I have an interview with martinaire next week. I only live about 30 minutes east of addison, so the interview/training is no big deal. In the email they asked me if i wanted GUY or PSN, and after reading/lurkin the forums for a while i saw GUY wasnt exactly the funnest route, so i told them PSN.

So, to finally get around to my question, i know theres a martex pilot or two on the board, just wondering if yall had any info on what the duty/flight time and such was like on the palestine run. thanks.
 
cmill said:
So, to finally get around to my question, i know theres a martex pilot or two on the board, just wondering if yall had any info on what the duty/flight time and such was like on the palestine run. thanks.
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I'm currently at Martinaire. The PSN run leaves about 1900 stops in TYR, and overnights at DFW. Depart DFW about 0600 (depending on how late UPS is running) stop at TYR, and your done at PSN. You'll get plenty of chances to shoot an ILS to mins at TYR in the morning, it's always foggy.

The GUY run is actually a good deal now that we are running it 7 on / 7 off. It's a LONG night, and you have to spend the weekend out in the panhandel of OK, but then you get a week off to do whatever you want.

Send me a PM if you have any more questions.
 
mhcasey said:
This is me wishing I was anywhere close to 135 mins :banghead:
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yeah, soon you too can fly long days in bad wx with minimal equipment, and an even more minimal paycheck. Sounds like a blast eh?


Not complaining, ive always had fun flying freight, and it beats the hell out of instructing. Mainly the pay leaves a little, or a lot, to be desired, but in most cases ur still doing better than the average regional FO.
 
mhcasey said:
This is me wishing I was anywhere close to 135 mins :banghead:
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:yeahthat: me too.

Are any of you aspiring freight dogs finding that you will hit 1200 TT before 500 P2P X-C or 100 night? I'm just about 200 shy of the TT requirement, but am 60 short of the night and 200 short of the X-C, so it looks like I'll hit 1200 TT well before the night or X-C requirements.
 
flyinguitar said:
:yeahthat: me too.

Are any of you aspiring freight dogs finding that you will hit 1200 TT before 500 P2P X-C or 100 night? I'm just about 200 shy of the TT requirement, but am 60 short of the night and 200 short of the X-C, so it looks like I'll hit 1200 TT well before the night or X-C requirements.
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If I recall, the x-c time is point to point. So anytime that you fly from one airport to another, reguardless of the mileage, it's considered a x-c. If you're instructing with primary students and commercial, give a simulated engine out at an airport away from your home airport. If you're instructing instrument students, have the student come off of one of the approaches and land at an airport away from your home airport. You'll get the x-c time in easily by doing this. It's also good practice for the student.
 
flyinguitar said:
:yeahthat: me too.

Are any of you aspiring freight dogs finding that you will hit 1200 TT before 500 P2P X-C or 100 night? I'm just about 200 shy of the TT requirement, but am 60 short of the night and 200 short of the X-C, so it looks like I'll hit 1200 TT well before the night or X-C requirements.
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I was short on the night requirement towards the end. I beged as many night lessons as possible from my other CFIs, and schedualed plenty of late lessons. I was often the last one closing up the school.
 
well im goin into ads tommorrow for the interview. thanks for the info, hopefully all goes well. :) Maybe ill see ya around.
 
Does anybody have any updates on Martinaire? Is it a good company to work for? What are the bases? What are the schedules like? CASS? The website isn't very helpful. Any info you can give me would be great.
 
I ran in to one of their guys somewhere (I don't even remember where I've been anymore...welcome to freight...I'm pretty sure there were car parts involved). He seemed as happy as one can expect from a bleary-eyed freightdog, which is to say he didn't give the impression that his management F'd with him unnecessarily or his plane was falling apart. Granted, this was one guy, and we were both half-asleep, but I got the impression that it didn't suck in unexpected ways, which is about the best thing you can say about any 135, since everyone knows going in the problems that are simply endemic to the job. This is all a long way of saying "from my extraordinarily limited experience, go for it".

Also: I'd be shocked if they're in CASS. Typically, commuting isn't an option in 135 freight. I look forward to hearing from the guys who actually work there. I will say that in this economy, if I were a CFI or jobless, I'd jump on it in a heartbeat. Good luck.
 
upup89 said:
Best job I've ever had!
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HELL, I'm still instructing, and it's the best job I've ever had. Spent 9 years w/an auto dealer as a wrench, left $75k a year to make mabey $15k, but now my wife can tolerate me, and my kid dosen't piss me off just breathing loud. Money isn't everything. I used to leave work greasy-miserable-and with money in my pocket. Now I leave work clean-happy-and broke:D.
 
mshunter said:
HELL, I'm still instructing, and it's the best job I've ever had. Spent 9 years w/an auto dealer as a wrench, left $75k a year to make mabey $15k, but now my wife can tolerate me, and my kid dosen't piss me off just breathing loud. Money isn't everything. I used to leave work greasy-miserable-and with money in my pocket. Now I leave work clean-happy-and broke:D.
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god bless ya...seriously...if ya don't love flying an airplane, get the hell out of the bizz...
 
skatergeek said:
Does anybody have any updates on Martinaire? Is it a good company to work for? What are the bases? What are the schedules like? CASS? The website isn't very helpful. Any info you can give me would be great.
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We're still here. We've lost a few runs due to UPS eliminating the midnight sort at DFW, but overall things are steady. Scheduales are mostly monday night to saturday morning, depart the outstation overnight at the hub, and out again in the morning. We can jumpseat on SWA, but not in the cockpit. Pay isn't going to change with so many pilots on the street. The planes are old, but maintence is great.

The company really isn't recruiting for pilots right now, but I'll let you guys know if anything changes.
 
USMCmech said:
We're still here. We've lost a few runs due to UPS eliminating the midnight sort at DFW, but overall things are steady. Scheduales are mostly monday night to saturday morning, depart the outstation overnight at the hub, and out again in the morning. We can jumpseat on SWA, but not in the cockpit. Pay isn't going to change with so many pilots on the street. The planes are old, but maintence is great.

The company really isn't recruiting for pilots right now, but I'll let you guys know if anything changes.
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Thanks for the info, I was asking becuase I saw and ad on climbto350...you can never really trust that site though.

Boris Badenov said:
Also: I'd be shocked if they're in CASS. Typically, commuting isn't an option in 135 freight. I look forward to hearing from the guys who actually work there. I will say that in this economy, if I were a CFI or jobless, I'd jump on it in a heartbeat. Good luck.
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That is true..you can always hope though! I currently can not move (wife is still in school) and I don't think I can keep instructing for another year and a half, been doin it for almost 3 years now...
 
skatergeek said:
Thanks for the info, I was asking becuase I saw and ad on climbto350...you can never really trust that site though.



That is true..you can always hope though! I currently can not move (wife is still in school) and I don't think I can keep instructing for another year and a half, been doin it for almost 3 years now...
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Well, ive been at Martinaire for about 2 months, and over all id call it a good experience. Yeah, theres gonna be times when ur pissed, just like any other job, but its a good job, decent pay, and i know for sure that ive actually worked worse jobs.

I checked the ad on climbto350 and its prolly true. The GUY route is changing, but i thought they found a pilot for HDX, although he might not have worked out. As far as TYR goes, that is currently combined with my route, and they have been talking about splitting it up.

So, IMHO, if you're tired of instruction, or out of work, id definitely consider it.
 
mshunter said:
Isn't this a pay site. Mabey it's time for a boycot/class action?
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I think a boycot wouldnt hurt. Ive met the minimums and applied to several jobs through climbto350, never heard a thing from any of the companies I applied to. It definately isnt worth the subscription price.
 
SIUav8er said:
I think a boycot wouldnt hurt. Ive met the minimums and applied to several jobs through climbto350, never heard a thing from any of the companies I applied to. It definately isnt worth the subscription price.
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Looks like many subscription based job sites rotate, and artfully update the listings to make them look new, so people don't stop dropping the cash. I just saw an advertising for a job with 2009 in the title. When reading the text it referred to 2008 inside several times. It was clearly an old post. I remember having seen it last year.

Findapilot was in my favorites list for quite a while, before the owner changed to a subscription based service. That killed it for me, as the few jobs that are out there either receive 500+ applications or are not really worth looking into.

I would not pay a dime for a job search site - period.
 
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