Snickersnwa
Well-Known Member
CBS News just said that they’re expecting the FAA to announce tomorrow a change to the mandatory retirement age to 65 (providing that the FO is under 60). We'll see tomorrow I guess
Absolutely terrible news.
Look up the history of the age 60 rule and see why it was put in place.
You guys have to think LONG term, how this helps the younger pilots out there. Like when we are 58.
Uhh... no.
Absolutely terrible news.
With the 70+ year old crashing the other week, and the 58 year old having a heart attack and a PPL landing the plane - seems like odd timing.
Can you expand on that a little more? Look up the history of the age 60 rule and see WHY it was put in place then come back to me.
Dont know, dont care.
Do know you're going to sit behind THOUSANDS of pilots now as the age was moved back. I hope to be long retired by 60.
How it all started
How did the Age 60 Rule come to be? As the decade of the 50s neared an end, there was no federally-mandated retirement age yet established for commercial pilots. However, the major airlines had begun to devise and unilaterally institute pilot retirement plans that called for retirement at age 60. This was in keeping with how these companies treated other employees. The Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA), which represented the pilots of these carriers, opposed age-based retirement as a matter of policy. Eventually ALPA began to challenge company-imposed age-based retirements through the grievance process. (ALPA would later reverse its official position on this issue, and today supports a continuation of the existing Age 60 Rule.)
According to S. D. Woolsey (Commercial Aviation's "Age-60 Fraud," Danville, Calif., September, 1992), the first trio of such grievances took place during 1958-59, directed against TWA, Western and American Airlines (whose pilots at the time were represented by ALPA). Interestingly, Western and TWA management used medical and flight-safety arguments to support their positions. ALPA, though, succeeded in rebutting these points. In each case, a neutral arbitrator decided the grievance in favor of the union, and against the airline.
But possession, as an old legal adage points out, is nine-tenths of the law. American Airlines founder and CEO C. R. Smith, unhappy with the arbitrator's decision, refused to reinstate the three pilots who had brought the retirement grievance at his carrier. This issue (and a variety of others) eventually provoked ALPA to call for a strike against American. After a 21-day walkout, the pilot group claimed victory in regards to most issues. CEO Smith would not, however, allow the three
You guys have to think LONG term, how this helps the younger pilots out there. Like when we are 58.