Malfunction in rental

[OldTownPilot]

How was this airplane not airworthy.
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Seriously, .5 was put on the hobbs. This wasn't a run-up and come back issue, which is usually covered by the flight school.

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Man some of you guys are dense, not just you. The runup checks the engine and the prop. This wasn't an engine or a prop problem so how the hell is he going to find it then? He found a potentially significant problem at the first opportunity that it could be discovered, he came back. What more could you ask for.

 

[Douglas]

o rly?

 

[Goldmember]

I'm speaking of the opportunity cost of the tow driver. He probably gave up another tow to come get you and since when he got to you, you didn't need him you decided not to pay him.

Maybe I'll put it another way. You are on a trip and need fuel at 2 am. You call ahead to the non 24 hour FBO and tell them you will need fuel at 2 am. The line guy comes in at 145, gets the truck and waits for you. When you land, you decide you don't need fuel and dont want to pay the after hours call out fee because technically you didn't get the fuel service you thought you were going to need. This is on par with not paying for the .2 of a lesson of me explaining how to do a proper preflight or put air in a strut. Just because the hobbs wasn't running doesn't mean I wasn't working. I like what the above poster said, the plane was broken, the instructor wasn't. And come on, we're talking about 10 bucks here.

 

[Joe Gremlin]

At which point I'd produce our rental agreement, with your signature, showing how billing is done. That, along with records from the rental would complete the issue. My attorney would handle any further issues with your credit card company. I've done it before. It's really not that hard, so no luck is really needed, but thanks.

Well I know what my attorney charges. And I know what most retractable rentals go for an hour. So either your attorney works dirt cheap or you feel its good business to spend $1000 in order to make sure a customer pays the $75 that you feel they owe. Like I said, there are plenty of FBOs that would love to have me as renter. You're obviously not one of them. I suspect that you and I will both lose an equal amount of sleep over that fact. Cheers.

 

[JordanD]

o rly?

 

[minitour]

You would pay an attorney hundreds of dollars to avoid what?

No.

...see below.

Well I know what my attorney charges.

So do I.

At which point you would end up losing way more than the 40 dollars it cost to take off and land a defective airplane. Nice business structure you got going on there...

My attorney is my wife's cousin. She cost $0.

You ARE a cheap ass with your instructor if you won't pay them for their time.

...after thinking about it further, I probably would pay for my CFI

...and you'd be shown the door and charged per the agreement. Yes, those agreements do stand up against your credit card company. They back down when they see the agreement/contract with your signature on it. BTDT.

What exactly was wrong with the plane, aside from it being a fixed gear?

Exactly.

Forget it...

Ah...it's all so clear.

How was this airplane not airworthy.

Until the mx issue was known, I don't think that it was. If it was, why would you even takeoff (in an unairworthy aircraft).

-mini

 

[Joe Gremlin]

How was this airplane not airworthy.
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Because the gear won't come up. I'd say a retractable gear aircraft with a malfunctioning gear retraction mechanism would be seen as not airworthy in the eyes of an FAA inspector. Am I wrong about that?