BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
It's even stranger when it was the same type of plane and happened just a few hundred miles away.
Malaysian 777 Plane Crashes in Ukraine
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It's even stranger when it was the same type of plane and happened just a few hundred miles away.
wheelsup
Well-Known Member
I don't think anyone really knows where the first one disappeared to be fair
Nark
Macho Superpilot
Absolutely zero.
A missile isn't an errant bullet.
wainscottbl
Well-Known Member
Did I ever say I made up my mind? I don't think Moscow did it. I think it is possible the pro-Russian forces did it by mistake--they are not Moscow. Not that it excuses it. Murdering someone by mistake is still murder, just a lesser degree. Of course I think the conspiracy theorist wing is actually saying it was the CIA, not Ukraine, or maybe a both if you will since they say they are intertwined you see. Certainly the CIA was involved in that whole coup; and certainly, whatever happened, the CIA propaganda tanks are trying to turn this into an anti-Russian thing. That's not too far out like the article I pointed. They were talking about more sanctions on Russia, Iran severity, on Fox. I'd really like to know what that has to do with the plane crash. Moscow did not shoot that plane. What reason would they have? Pro-Russian forces, yes, but that's not Moscow. CNN likes to make it unclear who is who. Maybe the people on there are that ignorant and retarded, but you can believe the CIA is not. It seems so many Americans are still living in the Cold War mentality. It would be nice to have Russia as an ally, but there are reasons the powers that be want them still to be the bad guy--the bad guy that now shot down a jetliner. I'm very willing to say the pro-Russian forces since there is audio (not confirmed if it is legit yet) of them realising they shot it down by mistake.
bunk22
Well-Known Member
LOl.... typical of the net and this forum in particular. Reading through this thread...some genuine concern, drama queens and just plain nut bags. Some of these folks walk among us, that's scary.
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
What makes you so certain that they are not "Moscow?" Have you met them? If they are "pro-Russian" and supplied by Russia, do they not take orders from Russia?
SpiraMirabilis
Possible Subversive
I think a trained military operator would have known that this was a civilian aircraft, but someone who got the correspondance course version of how to operate the missile system may not have.
tonyw
Well-Known Member
I'm pretty sure it is. I highly doubt that either Ukraine or the rebels they are fighting want to take out a Malaysian plane.
Don't be so sure about that. We had a bunch of highly trained American sailors take down a civilian aircraft.
In this situation, however, I would lean towards you being right.
tonyw
Well-Known Member
jynxyjoe
Queso King
You read about that Flight 655 radar operator and it's not hard to imagine yourself making that mistake in a war or near war zone.
SpiraMirabilis
Possible Subversive
Incidentally, back in 2001 Ukraine accidentally shot down a Russian civilian airliner. So they do have a history of shooting down airliners by mistake (but so do Russia and the US) but I suspect that the rebels did this.
PeanuckleCRJ
Poodle Wrangler
Spot on. It would be absolutely shocking if this was an intentional shoot down of a civilian aircraft.
It's things like this that have been the catalyst that have started all out wars before, that's the scary part.
A Life Aloft
Well-Known Member
Alex Jones!!! Jeeeesusss H Keeeerist! Really?
Gah, help me.
And where do you suppose that the pro-Russian separatists get their training, support, supplies, direction, funding, equipment and arms from?
And where do you think all the lies, b.s. and massive propaganda campaign about what has been going on in the Ukraine comes from and has since day one? I'll give you a hint. It rides a horse.
And who has the flight and data recorders? Moscow. And who has complete physical control of the crash site/area and the wreckage? The pro Russian separatists. Good luck with that.
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BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Not at all what I said.
Joe said it feel strange to be walking around in uniform after a plane crash. I said it's even more strange to be walking around in uniform after a plane crash when it was the same type that you fly and happened just a few hundred miles away from where you are walking around. I was referencing the morning that CMR went off the end of the runway in Lexington.
Again the US Navy has been guilty of this. Training exercise aboard USS Saratoga October 1, 1992 - Missile exercise - nothing was supposed to be fired, but the end result, USS Saratoga puts 2 surface to air missiles into a Turkish destroyer killing the other friendly ship's command officer and most of their wardroom.
fast89pony
Well-Known Member
Are you really backing Hamas?? They hide their rockets in schools and hospitals! They launch rockets during a ceasefire that both they and Israel agreed to. Israel didn't launch one during that time. They where caught digging tunnels under the border to commit mass murder in Israel. Is Israel supposed to just stand by while this continues and not protect their people? If Cuba launched rockets at us on a daily basis..well it wouldn't be there for very long.
I can't think of a political or military reason to intentionally and knowingly take down a civilian airliner, much less take any hostile action against Malaysia by the parties involved.
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Does any democracy where the sheep out number humans REALLY count?
(There's a sheeple joke in here somewhere)
A Life Aloft
Well-Known Member
I can't either, but I can certainly picture a scenario in lieu of the other planes shot down by the separatists just this week using missiles, (especially the Antonov-26 transport aircraft) making a horrendous mistake in their current ardor/zeal.
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