Have to use the payphone when you get to the airport office.
Maintaining professionalism at 11 pm...
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Have to use the payphone when you get to the airport office.
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
I think now to be safe I'm going to wait to cancel IFR until I'm at the hotel room. Some of these hotel van drivers scare the hell out of me!
Bumblebee
Commodore
is that how you canceled Jimbo?
Does 800-WX-BRIEF still work I wonder?
WacoFan
Bigly
No no....I'm saying that IF the airplanes I had mastered possesed an electrical system, instruments and radios (which they did not) - THEN I would be the guy that cancels IFR with the airport in sight. It was a hypothetical...
Bumblebee
Commodore
Corporate Pilot
Well-Known Member
Today I cancelled on my GPS approach to 15 at IWS when I broke out 4 miles out. Guess I was not safe but it was about 90 degrees.
The direct phone number to get a clearance on the ground is 8887668267, I do not know if it works to cancel.
The direct phone number to get a clearance on the ground is 8887668267, I do not know if it works to cancel.
Bumblebee
Commodore
you might have just burst into flames from the heat!
SpiraMirabilis
Possible Subversive
"lackheed mahtin flight survice."
"I'd like to cancel a flight plan."
"tail number?"
"well, my call sign is martex 644."
"...November Martex... What??"
30 min later:
"ring ring"
"hello?"
"hey, it's dispatch... Are you dead? ATC says you didn't cancel your flight plan."
"godamnit!!!"
spbrian
Well-Known Member
You freight pilots and your not canceling until you hit the hotel... Tsk tsk... I hope they reserve a special place in hell for you people right alongside people who intentionaly raise the flaps on landing roll out which causes a bunny to die....
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
God, what a trainwreck that place was when I was flight instructing. I instructed inside the DC ADIZ so you had to file a flight plan for EVERYTHING and activate it with Potomac approach. Gotta love Filing a flight plan, goin out to preflight, calling on the phone to activate it and being told "we don't have anything on file, call them back". Seriously canceled a flight because that happened 5 times.
BAAAAHAAAAhaaahaahaaaa! Typical Lockheed. I have had that happen more than once. I see the number on my phone, and I know what it's about. I was even chastised once by the person calling.
"This is Lockheed calling for the pilot of xxxx. Are you on the ground safe?"
"Yes." Before I can respond with anything else.
"WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL AND CANCEL!? WE ARE ABOUT TO SEND OUT SAR FOR YOU!!!"
"LISTEN PAL, I called you guys over an hour ago and canceled! You guys need to get your *expletive deleted* together!
bronco21016
I know H.T.M.L. (How To Meet Ladies)
:insane:
Number1atNumber2
Tries to keep it fun.
:rotfl::rotfl: This made my day! :beer:
Seggy
Well-Known Member
Agree with you there fully.
One cannot assume there will be cell phone coverage, or that someone will make the call, that besides ATC, that something is wrong. After my experiences in the backwoods of Maine and WV in the winter flying in a 121 environment, I could see why one would want to be shut down at the gate until they cancel.
If that irritated you, well, sorry, but I stand by my statement on why someone MIGHT want to do it.
Bumblebee
Commodore
:beer:
WacoFan
Bigly
Let's look at this from a historical perspective and not take sides one way or another (regarding this post) but simply be amazed at the technology that is available today vs. what the pioneers had.
The forefathers of commercial aviation were flying into the same weather conditions (but had none of the ability to climb over weather, no avionics to speak of, no climate controlled comfort (open cockpits, even in winter), no IFR to cancel when they got to the gate...or anywhere. No turbine engine reliability. It is interesting because I grew up around antique airplanes and significantly more cool than the airplanes were the people I got to meet - who actually were flying these things on air mail routes, or DH-4 crop dusters in Nicaragua in the 30's, and even a couple of guys who flew in WW One. Not saying anything (except these guys were studs) but it just strikes me sometimes after growing up listening first-hand to these stories and then hearing about things today. The next time you are flying in really bad stuff (in anything being used in commercial service today) consider that people were doing the same thing in these, at night.
Waco JYM:
Pitcairn Mailwing:
Stearman Speedmail:
De Havilland DH-4 (and cockpit):
The forefathers of commercial aviation were flying into the same weather conditions (but had none of the ability to climb over weather, no avionics to speak of, no climate controlled comfort (open cockpits, even in winter), no IFR to cancel when they got to the gate...or anywhere. No turbine engine reliability. It is interesting because I grew up around antique airplanes and significantly more cool than the airplanes were the people I got to meet - who actually were flying these things on air mail routes, or DH-4 crop dusters in Nicaragua in the 30's, and even a couple of guys who flew in WW One. Not saying anything (except these guys were studs) but it just strikes me sometimes after growing up listening first-hand to these stories and then hearing about things today. The next time you are flying in really bad stuff (in anything being used in commercial service today) consider that people were doing the same thing in these, at night.
Waco JYM:
Pitcairn Mailwing:
Stearman Speedmail:
De Havilland DH-4 (and cockpit):
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
That cockpit is WAY too clean for a freighter.
WacoFan
Bigly
Of course you're exempted from the above...you flew MU2's. I should have put an MU2 with the above pictures. DEATHTRAP!!!!
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Yes, it sounds as though the OP is talking about my airline, and his story is absolutely absurd. The 11pm BMI flight is usually a stand-up, and since I used to fly nothing but stand-ups before I started flying a desk, and there is only a very small group of guys that fly stand-ups, I know almost all of them and have flown with them. The OP's assertions are so far from reality that it seems as though he's intentionally trying to damage the reputation of our pilots for some reason. I've never seen one of our pilots not make radio calls at an uncontrolled field, and unless we're in IMC, I've never seen someone not try to cancel IFR after established on the visual approach. I think the more likely situation is that the OP's buddy wasn't making radio calls or paying attention, landed on a runway that intersects the runway the AirTran flight was landing on, and the AirTran crew was rightfully pissed off. Or maybe the story is completely concocted. Either way, I doubt the story has any basis in reality.