Maintaining Control in Stalls

Re: Maintaing Control in Stalls

MikeD said:
Oh man, don't open that can of worms.

You may as well bring up FBO vs Academy, PFT vs traditional, pitch/power for speed/climb, static vs rolling takeoff, etc, etc
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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::D
 
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ctab5060X said:
I think we will need more popcorn than that!
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Re: Maintaing Control in Stalls

Okie_Pilot said:
I second that!
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Not trying to hijack the thread, but I saw hornblasters.com in your sig... hornblasters has given me and my brother countless hours of enjoyment!!!! I love it when they in da hood and people think it's gunshots!!!!
 
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jwp_145 said:
Not trying to hijack the thread, but I saw hornblasters.com in your sig... hornblasters has given me and my brother countless hours of enjoyment!!!! I love it when they in da hood and people think it's gunshots!!!!
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It's indescribable having the power to do that. Having train horns on your vehicle is a different feeling. It's the most enjoyable $540 I've spent on my vehicle. :)
 
Re: Maintaing Control in Stalls

EDUC8-or said:
Usually I take a deep breath and count to ten if I feel like I'm losing control. If that doesn't work I chant "Serenity now, serenity now."
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That only builds up the anger. Serenity now, insanity later. ;)
 
Re: Maintaing Control in Stalls

MikeD said:
Oh man, don't open that can of worms.

You may as well bring up FBO vs Academy, PFT vs traditional, pitch/power for speed/climb, static vs rolling takeoff, etc, etc
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I spin ALL my private students! :D
 
Re: Maintaing Control in Stalls

jwp_145 said:
None of the schools I've worked for have allowed primary pilot spin training... so we did some uncoordinated power-on stall recovery practicing.
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Thank you, Sir. You are at least doing the MINIMUM REQUIRED training in stalls. We all should be teaching stall recognition and recovery from all anticipated attitudes, including climbing turns, coordinated and uncoordinated.

Actually, it's the uncoordinated power-on stall that will flip you over in a heartbeat, so it is the one all solo students should be very familiar with. It isn't a spin if you go over one time: that's called the spin entry phase; and you don't even have to let it go that far. But everyone should definitely get comfortable in the uncoordinated climbing turn stall. It's the sudden reversal of the universe that stuns everybody at first; get over that and the rest is a carnival ride.
 
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meritflyer said:
You sure about that, says the DE.
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Yep. Maintain alignment with rudder. That's how the aerodynamics work. Maintain nose alignment with rudder, keep the wings level with aileron. In most all of the airplanes since the 50's, the ailerons are effective throughout the stall and should be used continuously throughout stall recovery along with, and in coordination with, using rudder to maintain nose alignment.

This is the objective of the final outcome of stall training. However, the primary impulse of most all pilot trainees is to twist the control wheel in response to a deflection of nose alignment, so the primary training is to teach 'rudder only' until the eye-hand/foot automatic response is to push rudder against any nose movement. When this is automatic, the student can begin to coordinate the ailerons into the recovery and smooth it out into a coordinated recovery.
 
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nosehair said:
Yep. Maintain alignment with rudder. That's how the aerodynamics work. Maintain nose alignment with rudder, keep the wings level with aileron. In most all of the airplanes since the 50's, the ailerons are effective throughout the stall and should be used continuously throughout stall recovery along with, and in coordination with, using rudder to maintain nose alignment.

This is the objective of the final outcome of stall training. However, the primary impulse of most all pilot trainees is to twist the control wheel in response to a deflection of nose alignment, so the primary training is to teach 'rudder only' until the eye-hand/foot automatic response is to push rudder against any nose movement. When this is automatic, the student can begin to coordinate the ailerons into the recovery and smooth it out into a coordinated recovery.
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Yep, definitely. To maintain alignment, use rudder. Works every time!
 
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