Lunch box food revisited

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Seriously? Yes, tipping the maid is considered standard tipping etiquette. For an average hotel (Holiday Inn, Hampton, etc.), $1 a night is normal. For a nicer hotel (Marriott, Sheraton, etc.), $2-3 would be standard. For something luxury (Ritz, JW Marriott, etc.), $5 a night would be expected.

The reason so many hotels treat airline crews like crap is because so many airline crews treat hotels service workers like crap. We'll be treated much better if we act like normal business travelers, and that means sticking to normal tipping guidelines. That's what our per diem is for.
Well I don't have per diem because I go home every night.
 
I saw this one coming a mile away. Because every manager is out to screw the worker? Come on.

Didn't say that, but managers do have a tendency to be pretty clueless about the jobs of their "underlings." Which is exactly why airline managers go around claiming ridiculous things like fatigue isn't a problem, and sitting reserve isn't so bad. They don't live that life, so they are clueless. All too often, managers have little to no experience in the job of the people they are managing, and that goes for all industries, not just ours. Just because someone manages maids, doesn't mean that that person herself ever actually worked as a maid.
 
Didn't say that, but managers do have a tendency to be pretty clueless about the jobs of their "underlings." Which is exactly why airline managers go around claiming ridiculous things like fatigue isn't a problem, and sitting reserve isn't so bad. They don't live that life, so they are clueless. All too often, managers have little to no experience in the job of the people they are managing, and that goes for all industries, not just ours. Just because someone manages maids, doesn't mean that that person herself ever actually worked as a maid.

Honest question...what industry other than airline, as a pilot, have you worked in? My experience has been that most managers have, in fact, performed the job of their "underlings" before becoming a manager.
 
Honest question...what industry other than airline, as a pilot, have you worked in? My experience has been that most managers have, in fact, performed the job of their "underlings" before becoming a manager.

Restaurant equipment company, several automotive dealerships, flight school, and real estate. At the Restaurant equipment company, everyone in management had zero experience at all in the business before opening the company. They still managed to do pretty well, but they had no idea what our jobs were out in the shop. The car dealerships were somewhat different. The mid-level managers had lots of experience in the industry, but the managers above them were absolutely clueless. Just empty suits who bounced from management jobs in one industry to the next. The flight school was the worst. People who have never even touched an airplane telling flight instructors and the chief instructor how to train pilots and run a flight school. Absolutely embarrassing. Real estate is the big exception, but a lot of that comes from regulatory requirements. You can't even hold a broker's license until you've spent several years in sales.
 
Real estate is the big exception, but a lot of that comes from regulatory requirements. You can't even hold a broker's license until you've spent several years in sales.

Not in Washington State. All Realtors are required to be a broker.
 
First of all, you are the first person I have heard in my over 6 years here who tips the maid.
Second, it may have sounded rude, but I am serious. The hotels don't consider us regular guests. We don't get reward points is just an example. They pick us up and drop us off as part of our job.
Now, if I ask the driver to drop me off at a restaurant for dinner, then hell yeah I tip him.


I've always tipped both the maid and the van driver.
 
Seriously? Also considered standard is that while on business travel you get Hotel Reward Points. Do we get that? No.
We are NOT standard business travelers, and hence I will NOT be tipping my maid or van driver.
FWIW, I didn't tip on 1st year pay. After that I did (the van drivers). I tip the van drivers $$ to load and unload my bags. If all they do is drive the van I won't tip.

It's pretty standard to tip drivers, there is the 1% of pilots who do not, but 99% of line guys do for sure. FAs it's maybe 75% but they are making sub-$20k just trying to survive.

Sometimes I wish I made more to tip the drivers more. I would like to tip $5 each way but that would completely blow my budget for the month.
 
I NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER, under absolutely NO CIRCUMSTANCES tip the van driver when he/she is transporting me to and from the airport. It is a requirement to go to a hotel for my job and I don't believe in tipping them for this reason. We don't get reward points at the hotels anymore too - all the more reason to not tip them. The only time I'll tip a van driver is if they bring me to a special location from the hotel on my own personal business.
 
I NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER, under absolutely NO CIRCUMSTANCES tip the van driver when he/she is transporting me to and from the airport. It is a requirement to go to a hotel for my job and I don't believe in tipping them for this reason. We don't get reward points at the hotels anymore too - all the more reason to not tip them. The only time I'll tip a van driver is if they bring me to a special location from the hotel on my own personal business.
What's your per diem for?
 
No per diem here. Company card. Theoretically we also can expense all our tips. We usually get a check 4 months later.
 
I NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER, under absolutely NO CIRCUMSTANCES tip the van driver when he/she is transporting me to and from the airport. It is a requirement to go to a hotel for my job and I don't believe in tipping them for this reason. We don't get reward points at the hotels anymore too - all the more reason to not tip them. The only time I'll tip a van driver is if they bring me to a special location from the hotel on my own personal business.
I hope you load and unload your own bags
 
I tip the van driver. Never heard of anyone tipping the maids, airline pilot or not. I guess someone should make a nice long list that spells out who I'm required to tip.

And yes, I banked per diem as a first year RJ FO! Only way I could pay bills at that point.
 
Didn't say that, but managers do have a tendency to be pretty clueless about the jobs of their "underlings."

This is one of the reasons I try to only shop at Publix. I know I am going to pay little more but I like how they do business. They only promote from within meaning to become a manager you must have worked every lower job.
 
This is one of the reasons I try to only shop at Publix. I know I am going to pay little more but I like how they do business. They only promote from within meaning to become a manager you must have worked every lower job.
Worked great for Ron Allen... NOT! :)

But I agree.
 
I NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER, under absolutely NO CIRCUMSTANCES tip the van driver when he/she is transporting me to and from the airport. It is a requirement to go to a hotel for my job and I don't believe in tipping them for this reason. We don't get reward points at the hotels anymore too - all the more reason to not tip them. The only time I'll tip a van driver is if they bring me to a special location from the hotel on my own personal business.

Tip the van driver. Even if it is a buck, that's still a good chunk of what they make. Good karma. It will come back to you, promise!
 
I've been eating GoPicnic meals for about a year. They pack easy (no fridge needed), low in calories, high in protein and are filling. Are they a meal replacement? No. But they are a very healthy in between meal snack. I've only found them at Target locally. I tried a few there and then bought them in bulk from their website. They often have $2 a box sales (normally $4 a box at Target).
My favorite is Hummus and Crackers followed by Turkey Pepperoni.

http://www.gopicnic.com/
 
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