Low time with turbine PIC time or High time No TPIC

[mastermags]

Hey man, I'm all about networking. It's how I've gotten all my jobs up to this point, and I'm pushing for recs left and right. But right now it simply feels like it's all about who jumps through the most number of hoops. It's just frustrating that widebody international time gets trumped by who spends more money on job fairs.

Meh, don't mind me. It's a long day over here and I'm just feeling blah today.

I know it sucks, but just gotta be patient. I know a ton of guys with TPIC and impressive resumes who haven't gotten the call yet either, but I have no doubt they will in the foreseeable future. You just gotta keep at it. I would say that the big carriers seem to really like the face time at job fairs. It might seem like a 'hoop', but when you have 12000 applications on file, the extra effort might be the tipping point.

 

[Maurus]

I know a ton of guys with TPIC and impressive resumes who haven't gotten the call yet either, but I have no doubt they will in the foreseeable future.

Some guys just think they should get an auto-invitation to interview and don't want to even put the least amount of work into getting hired.

When a captain asked what I had learned at the United Open House he was actually surprised to hear that they actually look at how often you update your application along with getting points based on the context of your recommendations. He was also surprised that they care about having your medical, passport, and FCC radio license info up to date. Apparently some people think that since they are active 121 that they don't need to keep that info up to date on the application.

As far as 135 TPIC the United guys don't care where you got your time. They look at the overall application. Chances are having 135 and 121 experience, more initial checkrides under your belt, ect, will get you what you need. Someone that went 172>seminole>121 Jet FO> 121 Jet CA could actually have a harder time getting points since they only have flown a handful of airframes and only done an initial checkride once.

That said some places are getting a bit weird. Spirit wont even let me see them at a career fair because I don't have 4000TT even though I have all other requirements met.

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

That said some places are getting a bit weird. Spirit wont even let me see them at a career fair because I don't have 4000TT even though I have all other requirements met.

Yeah, I just hit 4000TT and am planning on going to a job fair soon. No 121 time, so it's a long shot, but I have two internal recs, so hopefully that counts for something.

 

[bushleague]

Some guys just think they should get an auto-invitation to interview and don't want to even put the least amount of work into getting hired.

When a captain asked what I had learned at the United Open House he was actually surprised to hear that they actually look at how often you update your application along with getting points based on the context of your recommendations. He was also surprised that they care about having your medical, passport, and FCC radio license info up to date. Apparently some people think that since they are active 121 that they don't need to keep that info up to date on the application.

As far as 135 TPIC the United guys don't care where you got your time. They look at the overall application. Chances are having 135 and 121 experience, more initial checkrides under your belt, ect, will get you what you need. Someone that went 172>seminole>121 Jet FO> 121 Jet CA could actually have a harder time getting points since they only have flown a handful of airframes and only done an initial checkride once.

That said some places are getting a bit weird. Spirit wont even let me see them at a career fair because I don't have 4000TT even though I have all other requirements met.

Charlie Venema said that he didn't know the matrix, it's as secret as the Coca Cola recipe. He did note that if you update your medical each 12 months, the matrix assumes you're under age 40. Almost daily, there are posts to aviation interviews. The bulk of the posts are from 34-38 year olds with 8000-9000 TT, 4000 TPIC, four-year, non-mil, ATP + CFI. There was one exception last week, a 54 year old with 20000 hours.

 

[Phil Schuyler]

Hello, I been given the opportunity to become a captain on a turboprop aircraft but I am only able to log around 300 hrs yearly, my concern is if better for me to go to a regional airlines and that way I will have a high total time in a couple of years. My total now is 1800tt, 650 ME and TPIC 80. Want to know all yours opinions, thx

The way I see it, if you stay where you are (a 121 carrier, yes?), in three years you'll have upwards of 3000 hours with 1000 TPIC. If you move on, you'll have about 4000 hrs with about 100 TPIC. Stop and think about that.