Lost Pilot Sends Text MSG for Help!?!

drunkenbeagle said:
Students have an amazing ability to get lost anywhere. Every non-pilot I have taken up in a glider has not had a clue where we were after 3 minutes. (I don't generally venture more than 3 miles from the field.)

But yeah, getting lost in Florida should be nearly impossible.
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I mangaed to get a little lost on my first dual X-C using Dead reckoning during my PPL training, but I found the field using my sectional...My CFI was there, but wouldn't help me find the field which I thanked him for after we landed as I was able to say I got lost and then regained my bearings without any help (No Navaids, just a chart and a road). Now getting lost in the pattern...I didn't know it could be done :crazy: And low on Fuel? What was she doing flying around the pattern solo low on fuel????
 
Doug Taylor said:
Like getting lost in California too.

Coastline in the west, I-5 & Hwy 99 in the center, Sierra Nevadas toward the east.

Heading North, water on the left, you're on the west coast. Heading South, water on the left, east coast. Look for the big freaking lake.

I think people leave out the deductive reasoning variable out of the dead reckoning equation.
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Exactly why when I was instructing out of BWI, all student cross countries were to Ocean City, MD (OXB). If you reach the ocean, you've arrived!
 
Screaming_Emu said:
Exactly why when I was instructing out of BWI, all student cross countries were to Ocean City, MD (OXB). If you reach the ocean, you've arrived!
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Flying out here in NM is pretty similar (Atleast the rockies and west). You look for the mountain closest to the airstrip, point it there, and arrive:bandit: Just watch the restricted areas;)
 
MikeD said:
Did the txt look like this:

OMGZ! IOUD ISO KWIM? Kbye...
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"omg u r getting 709d omgz so srry lolz"
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Hmmmm...
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All of these are awesome lol. It really is sad to see somebody to get lost in Florida. She should have easily been able to tell where she was by looking at a sectional. I am curious as to whether or not her instructor was negligent in this area of instruction, or if she just made a really stupid mistake.
 
Generally speaking they'll also call in the signatory that endorsed her cross-country flight.

I had a student get lost on a cross-country and there I was, at the San Jose FSDO, a week later.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Generally speaking they'll also call in the signatory that endorsed her cross-country flight.

I had a student get lost on a cross-country and there I was, at the San Jose FSDO, a week later.
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A good reason to make sure you document your training with each student well.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
A good reason to make sure you document your training with each student well.
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I am definitely going to keep stuff like this in mind to help make my life a heck of a lot easier once I become a CFI. I certainly never intend for a student to get lost on a cross country, but people can lose every bit of sense they have when they get up there by themselves.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
A good reason to make sure you document your training with each student well.
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Yes. And when I won a free, one-day trip to Oklahoma City, three years after training with a student who became a major airline pilot that got in trouble in 121 operations, keep your OWN copious notes as well! :)

Because they'll ask you, "When and how many times did you give Mr. XXXXXX instruction on YYYYYY? Dates and duration please..."

"Whut whut WHAAAAT?! That was three years ago!"

*blink* *blink*

"Dates and duration please..."
 
Doug Taylor said:
Yes. And when I won a free, one-day trip to Oklahoma City, three years after training with a student who became a major airline pilot that got in trouble in 121 operations, keep your OWN copious notes as well! :)

Because they'll ask you, "When and how many times did you give Mr. XXXXXX instruction on YYYYYY? Dates and duration please..."

"Whut whut WHAAAAT?! That was three years ago!"

*blink* *blink*

"Dates and duration please..."
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blink blink, not required to keep those records. Go away please.
 
I got kinda lost on my first solo xtry. Starting my 2nd leg departure asked me to fly 090 to stay away from skydivers in the area, my intended heading was about 010. After about 15 minutes I called back and asked if I could get back on my course, they said "maintain own navigation, radar services terminated, squawk vfr" :panic:

I was in east Texas and all I could see below me was a bunch of trees, so I tried to tune some VORs to find my location. Neither of them would work... So I turned to what I figured would get me back on track. After a while I saw a town with a water tower and descended hoping that they had the town name on the tower, which they did. I got out my sectional and found that I was a few miles to the right of my path, corrected and ended up flying right over one of my checkpoints.

I guess if I would have included "student pilot" in the remarks section of my flight plan they may have not been so quick to get me off freq. But I was a dumb pre-private, I didn't know any better.

I learned more from that flight than I can possibly explain.
 
mojo6911 said:
blink blink, not required to keep those records. Go away please.
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However, having dealt with sitting at the tastefully-appointed large brown mahogany conference table a few times in my short career, there's "legally required", "reasonable prudence" and whatever other rule they'd love to make up at moment's notice when they're on a fishing expedition.

I'll tell you the story of "ATP-Quality English" over a beer one day, my treat! (serious!)
 
Ajax BU said:
I got kinda lost on my first solo xtry. Starting my 2nd leg departure asked me to fly 090 to stay away from skydivers in the area, my intended heading was about 010. After about 15 minutes I called back and asked if I could get back on my course, they said "maintain own navigation, radar services terminated, squawk vfr" :panic:

I was in east Texas and all I could see below me was a bunch of trees, so I tried to tune some VORs to find my location. Neither of them would work... So I turned to what I figured would get me back on track. After a while I saw a town with a water tower and descended hoping that they had the town name on the tower, which they did. I got out my sectional and found that I was a few miles to the right of my path, corrected and ended up flying right over one of my checkpoints.

I guess if I would have included "student pilot" in the remarks section of my flight plan they may have not been so quick to get me off freq. But I was a dumb pre-private, I didn't know any better.

I learned more from that flight than I can possibly explain.
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Approach/center has no clue as to the status of your VFR flight plan. You should have told the enroute controller 'student pilot.'
 
Doug Taylor said:
However, having dealt with sitting at the tastefully-appointed large brown mahogany conference table a few times in my short career, there's "legally required", "reasonable prudence" and whatever other rule they'd love to make up at moment's notice when they're on a fishing expedition.

I'll tell you the story of "ATP-Quality English" over a beer one day, my treat! (serious!)
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I am just leery of giving the FAA any more information than I am required to give them. That is why I like having a legal services plan. You can really get yourself in trouble if they start fishing.
 
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