Looking for the part 91 icing regulation

[CameronF]

I have been looking at the FAR online at the FAA's website and can't seem to find it. There is FAR 91.527 but that deals with Large and Turbine powered aircraft along with fractional ownership. Is this what we are governed by in regular old part 91?

 

[Maurus]

Our small aircraft do not have an icing regs when flying part 91. It would be stupid to fly in ice or forecast ice with our aircraft unless we actually had approved anti/de-icing equipment.

Yes there are GA aircraft with TKS that haven't been approved. All that means is they haven't been tested to FAA standards and should only be used as a precaution or when in an emergency situation.

 

[minitour]

91.9

The AFM probably has a statement like "Flight into known icing conditions is prohibited" and/or a supplement in the back allowing icing flight with certain equipment installed and operable.

-mini

 

[CameronF]

Our small aircraft do not have an icing regs when flying part 91. It would be stupid to fly in ice or forecast ice with our aircraft unless we actually had approved anti/de-icing equipment.

Yes there are GA aircraft with TKS that haven't been approved. All that means is they haven't been tested to FAA standards and should only be used as a precaution or when in an emergency situation.

I know it is unsafe and should never be done. I was simply looking for the reg. as it has been a long time since I have gone through instrument material.

91.9

The AFM probably has a statement like "Flight into known icing conditions is prohibited" and/or a supplement in the back allowing icing flight with certain equipment installed and operable.

-mini

Thanks, that was what I was looking for!

 

[PeterPilot]

Here are some links I believe you will find helpful:

http://www.aerolegalservices.com/Articles/Known Icing Conditions 2009-02-25.shtml

http://www.faa.gov/news/aviation_news/2009/media/NovDec2009IceBelongs.pdf

http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/avia...afety/safo/all_safos/media/2008/SAFO08006.pdf

 

[Goldmember]

Careless and Reckless will take care of it as operating contrary to your aircraft's POH. edit: or placards/markings material

 

[USMCmech]

I have been looking at the FAR online at the FAA's website and can't seem to find it.

The short answer is there isn't one.

Nothing in the FARs prohibit you from launching into severe icing or freezing rain. However, the POH/AFM from the manfactuer does. Not to mention common sense

There is FAR 91.527 but that deals with Large and Turbine powered aircraft along with fractional ownership. Is this what we are governed by in regular old part 91?

No

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

Nothing in the FARs prohibit you from launching into severe icing or freezing rain. However, the POH/AFM from the manfactuer does.

Like the guy above me said, 91.9 prohibits you from flying without complying with the operating limitations in the POH or placards. I would like to see a true definition of "Known Icing Conditions" myself.

 

[PFGiardino]

I would like to see a true definition of "Known Icing Conditions" myself.

It doesn't exist. If you, as PIC, feel you will hit icing, that's known icing. So between you, me, and Joe Bob, we'll have three different definitions.

And I'll find the legal letter on that one, since I forgot most of it.

 

[etflies]

I'm willing to bet the FAA is purposely gray on the definition so they can apply it where it is needed. If you fly through ice and nothing happens, odds are nobody will care. If you fly through it and something happens, now they're interested. Unless of course, FAA Inspector Joe spots your C172 Heavy on the ramp covered in 1/2'' of rime as you shut down. Then you might get asked some questions.

If you aren't certified for it, don't do it. If you are, be smart, be safe, and best wishes.