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phaack

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Hello Everyone. I have wanted to be a pilot my whole life and have just been given an opportunity to do so. First I hope this is the right place to post, if not let me know.

I am helping my future employer research a new jet. Mainly her Learjet was destroyed in a tornado. And she wants to get a new jet with all the bells and whistles. I do not know exactly which model she had, possibly a 45, but she only had 1 pilot and unfortunately he was killed in a car accident. I need to research new jets that will allow for a single pilot with all of the correct certifications and training. Can you lead me in the right direction or help me figure out which jets qualify for this and any advice on the proper road for training to get what I need.

Please keep in mind I will be doing my training full time with the aid of my employer, so money will not be the issue. I want as fast a track as posible.

Thanks in advance.
 
What is your current level of aeronautical experience (i.e. flight hours & ratings)?

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I hate to burst your bubble, but if you are as low- (or no-) time as I think you are, you will not be doing any single pilot jet flying for quite a while. Even if you were able to get the rating (after a ton of training including private single engine, multi-engine, instrument, commercial, approved single-pilot jet type rating, etc.), I can assure you that the insurance company will not allow single-pilot operation of a jet without many thousands of hours of prior experience. Realistically you are looking at being 5-10 years away from single pilot jet operation.

As far as jets certified for single pilot operations, I know that there are a few models of the Cessna Citations, the Raytheon Premier, and some not-yet-certifed jets (Eclipse, Cessna Mustang, Sino-Sweringen SJ-20) that will be single-pilot capable. I don't know about the Lears. I don't recall any that are single-pilot, but I've been wrong before.

Some of the guys here that are farther along the corporate aviation ladder than I can expound further, I'm sure.
 
Is this a joke?

If not, have her send you to AZ, we have a nice multi-engine aicraft that we can use. We can use that to get all your ratings
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Some guys have all the luck. Hey, why not go for broke? Get your fabulously wealthy/unlucky/gullible benefactor to buy a surplus F-4 Phantom! Single pilot, 2 seats, and 10,000 lb payload capacity to carry all that Prada to and fro!
 
I appreciate any feedback I can get. I am still actually researching the validity of this person, so it could be that they just fed me a line of crap. But by no means should you assume that I am some idiot who thinks that this i the real deal.

This is why I do my research.
 
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I certainly didn't mean to imply that.
 
They have learjets out there that only require PIC?? I thought all learjets needed SIC and PIC?!
 
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They do.

"Lear jet" to some people means anything from a King Air 90 to a single-pilot Citation, to a Gulfstream V.

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This is good stuff. I did not know that there could be me such a wide interpretation of a learjet, or is it lear jet? Keep the information coming, it is very helpful.
 
I remember I was doing a FOD walkdown on the flight line for the Navy, and the guy next to me could tell you anything about an F-4, F-14, or F-18. But when he saw a Gulfstream IV that was carrying John Kerry, he turned to the guy next to him and said, "That's a learjet." I just chuckled.
 
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I remember I was doing a FOD walkdown on the flight line for the Navy, and the guy next to me could tell you anything about an F-4, F-14, or F-18. But when he saw a Gulfstream IV that was carrying John Kerry, he turned to the guy next to him and said, "That's a learjet." I just chuckled.

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One of my students is a former Marine Corps F/A-18 Back-Seater. 1100 hours in fighters, been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Great stick, but still new to GA.

Yesterday, we're taxiing to the runway and a Pitts was taking off. What does he say? "Wow, that's a neat Crop Duster!".
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Nature of the beast, I suppose.
 
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One of my students is a former Marine Corps F/A-18 Back-Seater. 1100 hours in fighters, been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Great stick, but still new to GA.

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So he's one of those double-anchor bitches?
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One of my students is a former Marine Corps F/A-18 Back-Seater. 1100 hours in fighters, been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Great stick, but still new to GA.

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So he's one of those double-anchor bitches?
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Oooohhhh...
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HE gave me a fun lesson on how to run an intercept on an RV-7 that was trying to run one on us. . .All in theory, of course....

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Ok, so I was finally able to contact my future employer, and I did find out she does have a co-pilot, but he does not want to be the pilot, so I guess that solves that problem.

Also, she wants a loaded plane when she buys it, that will carry roughly 12 passengers. I have seen that there are quite a few options, but many of them say up to x passengers and when you look at the floorplan you think, there is no way in hell that little jet would be comfortable with that many passengers on it.

Any suggestions for roomy 12 passenger jets? Another question I have been ondering, do I need different certifications for different equipment depending on what equipment the aircraft is equiped with, or is that all covered in my instruments rating certification?
 
I understand that you are just trying to get info but in order to be the PIC of a 12 person bizjet, that will take years of full time commitment in order to accomplish that. Once you get through your commercial multi and if your employer puts you right into somewhere like flight safety to get whats called a type rating (needed for turbojets and anything that is over 12,500 lbs.) there is no way on gods green earth that you'll get insured with those low hours. Employers that I have seen often upwards of 5000 hours total time and hundreds of hours in type. Also, what type of planes were you looking at?
 
The good news is I will be training full time and I have my employer full endorsement for completing as much flight time as needed. I was told that within 6 months I could potentially complete all of my certifications if I am going full time. By the end of a year I could have a total of about 1200+ flight hours if I am dedicated and work hard at it.

Where doe that place me? The flight school I spoke with told me that I should be in a good position at that point to fly lear jets. If anyone else has information on this, please let me know. I am suppose to have all my information gathered by the end of March when I will be sitting down with my future employer to discuss everything I have researched.
 
See current Flying magazine, the Gulfstream 450 is what you want. Only $33.5M. You'll be set! And don't worry about insurance, I'm sure your new employer is able to self-insure if they can afford to buy a plane like this for a new pilot.
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