longest commercial taxi time.......

[BajtheJino]

No. That would be ridiculous to log .1 or .2 in your logbook. But if you move the airplane for the purpose of flight it is perfectly fine, legal, acceptable to log it.
When I was a young pup I would used to do mtx repo's to an airport .2 away but with taxi time the flight would always be .5 due to runup, taxi, hold short, taxi, hold short, taxi and then on to shut down. You best believe I logged .5.
QUESTION #2
Dear Mr. Machado,
I am a student pilot. My CFI, a much younger man, has been filling in my log using the Hobbs meter time for the time of flight. Isn't the flight time that I log in my book the time between where I enter the runway for takeoff and the time I exited the runway after landing? What is the proper time for logging flight?
Thank you,
Sally
ANSWER #2
Greetings Sally:
Flight time is technically the time the aircraft begins to move under its own power for the purposes of flight. It ends when the aircraft comes to rest after landing. Hobbs meter time is considered a perfectly acceptable means of recording flight time, even though there may be a few minutes after an engine starts before you start moving. If this prevents you from sleeping well at night, then let the airplane move just a few inches immediately after engine start. My recommendation is to log all your Hobbs meter time since this is what nearly everyone else on the planet does.

 

[matt152]

My recommendation is to log all your Hobbs meter time since this is what nearly everyone else on the planet does.

Everyone else on the planet is wrong.

OK, I'll defer to Mr. Machado.

And I'll sit down now. :laff:

 

[USMCmech]

My recommendation is to log all your Hobbs meter time since this is what nearly everyone else on the planet does.

In the C208 I don't log by the hobbs, since the hobbs only records time when the torque over 1200 lbs (or something like that). Since I rarely need 1300 lbs to taxi, I use my out/in times that I record on the aircraft log.

When it takes you 30 minutes to taxi from one corner of DFW to the other, that taxi time can really add up. Also, taxing around DFW can be one of the most challanging parts of my day, so why shouldn't I record that experiance.

 

[matt152]

Also, taxing around DFW can be one of the most challanging parts of my day, so why shouldn't I record that experiance.

It would make a great entry in a diary. If your held on the ground for 2.5 hours, do you record that experience?

 

[cime_sp]

No. That would be ridiculous to log .1 or .2 in your logbook. But if you move the airplane for the purpose of flight it is perfectly fine, legal, acceptable to log it.
When I was a young pup I would used to do mtx repo's to an airport .2 away but with taxi time the flight would always be .5 due to runup, taxi, hold short, taxi, hold short, taxi and then on to shut down. You best believe I logged .5.
QUESTION #2
Dear Mr. Machado,
I am a student pilot. My CFI, a much younger man, has been filling in my log using the Hobbs meter time for the time of flight. Isn't the flight time that I log in my book the time between where I enter the runway for takeoff and the time I exited the runway after landing? What is the proper time for logging flight?
Thank you,
Sally
ANSWER #2
Greetings Sally:
Flight time is technically the time the aircraft begins to move under its own power for the purposes of flight. It ends when the aircraft comes to rest after landing. Hobbs meter time is considered a perfectly acceptable means of recording flight time, even though there may be a few minutes after an engine starts before you start moving. If this prevents you from sleeping well at night, then let the airplane move just a few inches immediately after engine start. My recommendation is to log all your Hobbs meter time since this is what nearly everyone else on the planet does.

This is exactly the way the airlines and FAA treat it as well. If ou taxi for 3 hrs waiting for de-ice it counts as FLIGHT TIME!!!! You intended to go flying and that's all that matters. This time also counts towards your daily/weekly/monthly limits. Now, if you have to taxi the airplane to the maintenance hanger, you are not intending to go flying. It doeas not count as time....although you still get paid for it!

 

[Jason]

It would make a great entry in a diary. If your held on the ground for 2.5 hours, do you record that experience?

Yes, time spent taxiing for takeoff is ok to log, period.

I don't know where people get the idea that only runway to runway time is loggable. Do want you want in your logbook but literally everyone else on the planet includes taxi time.

 

[Jason]

Since I work for Mesa, we only get paid for historical average block time, and not block or better, so I elected to taxi for 2 more hours all the way to the runway (knowing I couldn't takeoff), and then asked to go back to the gate. Return to gate pays block. So got paid for 3.1 hours for the taxi. Got fuel. Got back in line, this time single engine taxied out to the runway. Took 2 hours to get to the runway this time, get to PVD 45 minutes later, got paid 40 minutes for the second 3-hour attempt to get to PVD.

Surely you can't be serious?! I'm all for making a buck but not at the expense of the pax.

 

[Pistolpak1]

This is exactly the way the airlines and FAA treat it as well. If ou taxi for 3 hrs waiting for de-ice it counts as FLIGHT TIME!!!! You intended to go flying and that's all that matters. This time also counts towards your daily/weekly/monthly limits. Now, if you have to taxi the airplane to the maintenance hanger, you are not intending to go flying. It doeas not count as time....although you still get paid for it!

I like this answer it sums it all up for everyone. It also answers the question.

 

[Pistolpak1]

JFK - PVD normal day 2.5 hours taxi time for a 40 minute flight. Got sandwiched in line between two 747s who I don't think noticed me at all in my B1900. I think I needed one of those flags attached to my tail like on one those kiddie grocery carts in Ikea.

Thats kinda funny! :yup: