Logging Time Right Seat

Aggiepilot

Aggiepilot

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I have a question about trying to logging time when flying right seat.

I have worked as mechanic and flying part time with the company I am with. The company that owns the aircraft has a Lear31, KA200, and now is getting a Lear 45. From what my boss was saying he wants me more as a full time pilot rather then mechanic. I have a SIC Type for the 31, and logging that time SIC; for the King Air I have experience but not nearly enough time for insurance or enough experience really. The company requires for two pilots to fly every plane. From what it sounds like I will be in the King Air a lot more then anything other.

I know only the PIC can log the time, but how would others log this time?
-Would you just log it as experience but nothing really flight related?
-Would you log the time that You are in control of the aircraft? Hands on, and how would you address Autopilot time?
-Would only the Pilot whoms name is on the IFR plane be able to log the time?

Whats the best way to face this and keep things legal while gaining flight hours?

Thanks
 
The short answer for the King Air is no unless its operated under 135 (and you are a required crewmember) or you are receiving (or giving) dual instruction or even acting as a safety pilot for the PIC. Thats it. It is a single pilot airplane.
 
Aggiepilot said:
So no for the King Air even if the Left Seat takes off and You fly the entire leg from the Right Seat?
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Don't know why people are being pricks about it.

In your situation, you can log all of the time you are the sole manipulator of the controls in the KA as PIC. I would go ahead and keep a separate column to log the entire time, as well, because a lot of corporate operators just want your total experience in the airplane.
 
mojo6911 said:
Don't know why people are being pricks about it.

In your situation, you can log all of the time you are the sole manipulator of the controls in the KA as PIC. I would go ahead and keep a separate column to log the entire time, as well, because a lot of corporate operators just want your total experience in the airplane.
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Nobody is being a prick about it. Myself and others have written about this to nth degree here. Before he starts down the path of "What about this, that, and the other..." (Which this topic ALWAYS turns into), he is better off doing a simple search and review the 1 gigabyte of material here regarding logging right seat time in a king air.
 
Yup, sole manipulator of the controls. This is what I did. I logged the flight time that I was sole manipulator, put in my logbook as Part 61 PIC time (along with TT, Multi-Engine, X-c, instrument, etc.) so it can easily be subtracted if need be, and in the Remarks section I put Logged Via 61.51(e)(1)(i) along with the name of the pilot who I was flying with. That way, if anyone had any question on whether or not the time I logged was legal they could look it up for themselves. I also had a Letter of Interpretation from the feds at my disposal regarding this issue as well.

As far as the autopilot goes, I'm solely manipulating the autopilot controls which is manipulating the flight controls so it's still time.

I logged the time this way, it got me over the 100 hours of Multi hump and I got an interview at a regional shortly after. They didn't question the time or the way it was logged, just some basic systems questions to make sure I wasn't fudging.
 
mojo6911 said:
Don't know why people are being pricks about it.

In your situation, you can log all of the time you are the sole manipulator of the controls in the KA as PIC. I would go ahead and keep a separate column to log the entire time, as well, because a lot of corporate operators just want your total experience in the airplane.
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Yea that's what the forums are for. Ask any question you'd like! I log right seat king air time as total time only. Like N519AT, I make a comment in the remark section so it can easily be separated. Log 10 pro makes separating these flights so easy. I'd highly recommend it!!
 
You can log the right seat time as total time and PIC time if you are flying a 91 leg. However, many companies will not accept the time unless you were the PIC of records in the aircraft logbook. SIC can only be logged under part 135 if the SIC is required by the ops spec (etc.). It is still valuable experience.
 
You can log the right seat time as total time and PIC time if you are flying a 91 leg. However, many companies will not accept the time unless you were the PIC of records in the aircraft logbook. SIC can only be logged under part 135 if the SIC is required by the ops spec (etc.). It is still valuable experience.
 
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