Logging Point-to-Point Cross-Country Time

[Shiftace]

Cool! Thanks for the response. A few more questions - then am done (I think).

Fly A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H-A, all legs under 50 nm distance, but D is 50.1 from A so you can log the entire flight as greater than 50nm XC time.

Ok, what happens, if you terminate the flight at H? Still XC? Also, what if you ferry a plane for a friend from A-B (only 25 miles) away? Still XC?

 

[Shiftace]

Matt13C

Ok, disregard the previous post. I did finally answer my own question - I was confused between P2P and XC. The question now is - can you log dual received (working towards PPL with an instructor) as P2P?

Joe Sorry for hijacking the thread. Had a few questions too about logging time! Cheers!!!

 

[IslandFlyer]

Also, no need to keep a seperate column for the flights under 50 NM. As long as you write down in your logbook the airports you went to, just tally it up when you meet the 135 TT. More than likely you'll have the x/c time. Only takes a few minutes to do and you won't have to have 2 seperate cross country columns.

 

[MidlifeFlyer]

Amazing amount of misinformation in a pretty simple rule regarding the requirement for the private, commercial and instrument. Here's what it says:

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(4) Cross-country time means -
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(ii) For the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements (except for a rotorcraft category rating), for a private pilot certificate (except for a powered parachute category rating), a commercial pilot certificate, or an instrument rating, or for the purpose of exercising recreational pilot privileges (except in a rotorcraft) under § 61.101(c), time acquired during a flight--
(A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;
(B) That includes a point of landing that was at least a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and
(C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.
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"includes a point of landing" (not a 50 NM leg, not the "first" point of landing, but "a" point of landing)
"straight line distance" (not airport to VOR to VOR to airport or swinging around mountain peaks or accounting for you getting lost or doing some en route sightseeing)
"more than 50 nautical miles" (not 47 or even 50; "more than" 50)

 

[MidlifeFlyer]

Matt13C

The question now is - can you log dual received (working towards PPL with an instructor) as P2P?

Of course not! Can't you see where it says:

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(4) Cross-country time means -
(i) Except as provided in paragraphs (b)(4)(ii) through (b)(4)(vi) of this section, time acquired during flight--
(A) Conducted by a person who holds a pilot certificate;
(B) Conducted in an aircraft;
(C) That includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure; and
(D) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point. ; and
(E) There is no instructor on board.
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(Hint: No, I couldn't either)

 

[Hubbs]

When I worked at Flight Safety in Wero Beach, they insisted that we log at least .2 less XC than the total duration of the flight for Taxi, Take Off and Landing whether we did just the one LDG or 100. In fact they made us sign something to the effect that our jobs were on the line if we didn't. They said the Orlando FSDO had required it, I just think they wanted to bill the students for the extra .2

 

[z987k]

When I worked at Flight Safety in Wero Beach, they insisted that we log at least .2 less XC than the total duration of the flight for Taxi, Take Off and Landing whether we did just the one LDG or 100. In fact they made us sign something to the effect that our jobs were on the line if we didn't. They said the Orlando FSDO had required it, I just think they wanted to bill the students for the extra .2

The Orlando FSDO is known for that. Doesn't make it correct though. The FAR's are perfectly clear. I'd tell em to try reading and not do it personally.

 

[Pilotforhire587]

log it all