logging multi time on a cessna402

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saviboy

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Hi
my friend is an F/o on a C-402
I am wondering how can she log her multi time and what is it worth?
thanks
 
You can't log SIC time in a 402. If she is rated in the aircraft she could log PIC for the time she acutally manipulating the controls, but ony if the PIC agrees not to log the time at all, which won't happen. Another way would be if the PIC is an MEI and would give her dual in the aircraft. Then both could log PIC.
 
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You can't log SIC time in a 402. If she is rated in the aircraft she could log PIC for the time she acutally manipulating the controls, but ony if the PIC agrees not to log the time at all, which won't happen. Another way would be if the PIC is an MEI and would give her dual in the aircraft. Then both could log PIC.

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What if it's 135 or 121 time?
 
If the airplane is operated 135 or 121, and the company's Operations Specifications require an SIC, then one could legally log that time as SIC. Otherwise, no dice.
 
ALL 135 ops specs require SIC. The caveat is that some allow you to use an autopilot IN LIEU OF an SIC.

Even then, the way I read it, as long as the pilot receives the SIC check ride and it is indicated on the form 8410 then they are legally an SIC.
 
The autopilot exemption gives the operator the OPTION of using an autopilot in lieu of an SIC. Just because they have the autopilot authorization (135.105), doesn't mean they can't have an SIC.
 
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ALL 135 ops specs require SIC. The caveat is that some allow you to use an autopilot IN LIEU OF an SIC.

Even then, the way I read it, as long as the pilot receives the SIC check ride and it is indicated on the form 8410 then they are legally an SIC.

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This is incorrect. Only 135 passenger carrying under IFR require an SIC if there is not an autopilot as stated in FARs 135.101 and 135.105. If you are carrying cargo, you do not need an SIC regardless if autopilot is installed or not.
 
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Hi
my friend is an F/o on a C-402
I am wondering how can she log her multi time and what is it worth?
thanks

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Chances are that where you friend flies the 402 (Air Vegas?) their 135 certificate requires a SIC. So then the company will train an SIC, the feds (or company check airman) will conduct a part 135 SIC checkride and issue paperwork denoting such.
 
Cape Air flies a fleet of 402's and I think they only require a SIC when operating in IMC.
 
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Cape Air flies a fleet of 402's and I think they only require a SIC when operating in IMC.

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"Operating in IMC" or "operating IFR"?
Picky, I know, but there is a difference.
 
Doh!

...sorry John. I guess I should read before I post. lol....
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ALL 135 ops specs require SIC. The caveat is that some allow you to use an autopilot IN LIEU OF an SIC.

Even then, the way I read it, as long as the pilot receives the SIC check ride and it is indicated on the form 8410 then they are legally an SIC.

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This is incorrect. Only 135 passenger carrying under IFR require an SIC if there is not an autopilot as stated in FARs 135.101 and 135.105. If you are carrying cargo, you do not need an SIC regardless if autopilot is installed or not.

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ok ok ok - All PASSENGER 135 then.
 
No that's not correct. You may not carry passengers VFR without an SIC or autopilot unless you have a waiver in your ops specs.

This is because under part 135 a VFR only pilot MAY (under certain circumstances) file an IFR flight plan and do portions of the trip in IMC.
 
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"Operating in IMC" or "operating IFR"?
Picky, I know, but there is a difference.

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sorry.. IFR I believe..
 
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