Logging landings as a CFI...

I think that the point is that you should clearly indicate landings that are logged but are not intended to be used towards currency. If you don't clearly indicate such, the FAA could (if they were reviewing your log because of an incident for example) make the case that you were intending those landings count towards currency, an obvious falsification of your logbook. Bad juju.

Log what you want, just make it clear what you are logging and why.
 
SteveC said:
I think that the point is that you should clearly indicate landings that are logged but are not intended to be used towards currency. If you don't clearly indicate such, the FAA could (if they were reviewing your log because of an incident for example) make the case that you were intending those landings count towards currency, an obvious falsification of your logbook. Bad juju.

Log what you want, just make it clear what you are logging and why.
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last post was in a rush while on my way out the door. thid one is from the smart phone, so bear with me. all my currency stuf is noted as such. there is no question as to my currency in my records. tjede entried are neither false or fradulente so 61.59 does not apply. ref 61.59 (a)(2)
 
I only log the landing if I'm the sole manipulator, and its easy for me to keep track of currency. When I look in my logbook I feel a better satisfaction of knowing that all these landings were ALL mine. I dont get satisfaction of seeing how many landings my logbook says I did if my students did the majority of it.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
It sounds like we agree with each other.
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Indeed it does. The only reason why I log it the way I do is so both logs match as much as possible. I use the OBS to log number of landings (010=1, 020=2, etc.) and then keep track of total time in the airplane.

I don't remember who made the comment earlier (it's been a long day, and I don't care/am to tired to look) but if you can't look at your schedule at the begning of the day and see if you will get close to the total number of hours in 24 (not just for that day, as the post trended towards) then you need some help with mental math. If I see I will be close, I'll limit my flight times with each student, and keep track of how close I was throughout the day. It's not realy all that complicated. And If it looks like I'll go over the 8 in 24, then "lets do some ground."
 
FYI, here's Rod Machado's info on this in the most recent copy of AOPA Flight Training:

Can a CFI log these landings?

Dear Rod:
We all know that as CFIs we can't log (for currency) the takeoffs and landings of our students. As a result, all of us end up getting in extra time to maintain our legal day and night currency.
Here's what I don't get. I fly as an instructor, five days a week, full time, and on average, I do three or four demo flights in a week, in addition to my regular students. Here's what confuses me: When I take a demo flight student up (brand new, never flown) the only hope the clients have of coming back to earth again is me. So, I am doing the takeoffs and landings even though they may have their hands on the controls. Why shouldn't the takeoffs and landings count toward my currency in this scenario?
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Greetings Name Withheld:
The FAA partially responded to a question similar to yours that reads, "Certainly, an instructor could use a takeoff or landing for currency if it is being demonstrated and the instructor is the sole manipulator of the controls." This, of course, tells you nothing you didn't already know. So you have to use some common sense here to make sense of what's commonly not mentioned.
In the movie Transformers, Optimus Prime says to Megatron, "It looks like it's just you and me," to which bad boy Megatron replies, "No, it's just me." When you're with someone who doesn't know how to land an airplane, then, like Megatron, it's just you (and only you) who is responsible for getting that airplane down. It simply can't matter if another human hand happens to be on the controls, following you through the landing, while you skillfully land that airplane.
That's why the currency regulations say that you must make three takeoffs and three landings&as the sole manipulator of the flight controls. The dictionary definition of manipulate reads as follows: To operate or control by skilled use of the hands.
Since the FAA expects you to act logically in all matters aviation, it's hard to imagine how anyone, much less the FAA, could deny that you deserve to log a landing during a demo flight to a "non skilled" person who follows you through the landing on the other set of flight controls.
 
One point nobody has mentioned is that the FAA is NOT the biggest worry. The civil lawsuit is far worse than anything the FAA will do to an airman.
 
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