Logbook questions

adreamer

adreamer

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Just wondering about logbook. Do you log all the takeoffs and landings while you are acting as flight instructor?

adreamer
 
Read the landing currency regulation. Logging landings that don't fit is the legal equivalent to logging the landing when sitting in seat 23D of an Airbus. Might be fun to count, but it the FAA can't tell the difference when it looks at your logbook, it's potentially falsification.

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61.57 Recent flight experience: Pilot in command.
(a) General experience.
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (e) of this section, no person may act as a pilot in command of an aircraft carrying passengers or of an aircraft certificated for more than one pilot flight crewmember unless that person has made at least three takeoffs and three landings within the preceding 90 days, and -
(i) The person acted as the sole manipulator of the flight controls; and
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I always disliked this sole manipulator rule...

Basically, if I am teaching a student how to land and I touched the controls to help the student during the actual flare, touchdown, and rollout, neither of us can log the landing. Someone landed the plane though because it sure didn't land itself.

I log the landings that I do for demonstration purposes but I tell the student to put their hands on the controls to feel what I am doing. This way I am the sole "manipulator" but they also get experience seeing/feeling how it is done. Eventually I switch it over to them and let them be the manipulator and I only correct it when I have to save the plane from getting bent.

I log the landings I did like any other landings but I put the total landings that they get credit for in the comments section of my log book so I know how many they did.
 
adreamer said:
Just wondering about logbook. Do you log all the takeoffs and landings while you are acting as flight instructor?

adreamer
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Initially I logged them all (like in the first 50 hours of dual). Then I smartened up and saw the reg that Midlife posted. After that, I logged what I needed to stay current. I'm too lazy to add up pages and pages of landings.
 
wheelsup said:
Initially I logged them all (like in the first 50 hours of dual). Then I smartened up and saw the reg that Midlife posted.
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That's funny, I figured it out around that amount of dual too... One of those CFI learning moments.
 
Timbuff10 said:
Basically, if I am teaching a student how to land and I touched the controls to help the student during the actual flare, touchdown, and rollout, neither of us can log the landing. Someone landed the plane though because it sure didn't land itself.
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I let the student log those. It makes them feel good and they don't have passenger-carrying currency issues (if they fly with a passenger, landing currency won't be their problem!)
 
I give my students almost all of the landings, that way I don't have tons and tons of landings to add up. I only make it a point to get a night landing once in a while to stay current.

Mike
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
It makes them feel good and they don't have passenger-carrying currency issues (if they fly with a passenger, landing currency won't be their problem!)
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Yeah, afterall we only log landings to make sure we are current... Regarding the student not being able to carry pax, I never thought about it like that before... Thanks Mark!

I felt a little moment of clarity there.
 
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