Living the dream part III

VIRotate said:
If I need full boards, I go full boards. Don't care what the guy next to me or the people behind me think. It's there to use and by-god I'm going to use them. Plus I like grabbing levers and pushing buttons.
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I think it's been well established that if you need full boards then by all means use them.

The "FAIL" part is if you forced yourself to need them, not ATC. Example, you're 6000' on downwind to 1 in dca with no other planes on frequency and you're doodling down at 1000fpm not even realizing you're high. That's a fail.
 
learhawkerbe400 said:
I think it's been well established that if you need full boards then by all means use them.

The "FAIL" part is if you forced yourself to need them, not ATC. Example, you're 6000' on downwind to 1 in dca with no other planes on frequency and you're doodling down at 1000fpm not even realizing you're high. That's a fail.
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Don't you just do an unannounced 360 at that point?

:D
 
ctab5060X said:
Don't you just do an unannounced 360 at that point?

:D
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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] what a clown that guy was.

We can 360 then dip low on glide slope to touchdown smooth but if that doesn't work out we'll go just go around and climb to 10,000'.

He just got 737 captain in LGA. Watch out.
 
learhawkerbe400 said:
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] what a clown that guy was.

We can 360 then dip low on glide slope to touchdown smooth but if that doesn't work out we'll go just go around and climb to 10,000'.

He just got 737 captain in LGA. Watch out.
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Funny how it is in a base with tons of new hire probationary FOs...
 
Acrofox said:
I would say about 98% of the captains I've flown with were on the CRJ before coming over... I'm only repeating what I've heard from them—which is why I said "I hear."

I have no other frame of reference, aside from your comments; it's good to hear that that (is not) / (is no longer) the case.

-Fox
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They're likely the same idiots who call V2 (for reasons utterly inexplicable), still blurt speed MODE nav MODE immediately after rotation, and descend in vertical speed in the terminal area, insist upon flap extension during pushback and other sundry offenses against the Natural Order. (Check versus checklist, who calls what, etc. - tell you what, my kingdom for Standard Text.)
 
Autothrust Blue said:
They're likely the same idiots who call V2 (for reasons utterly inexplicable), still blurt speed MODE nav MODE immediately after rotation, and descend in vertical speed in the terminal area, insist upon flap extension during pushback and other sundry offenses against the Natural Order. (Check versus checklist, who calls what, etc. - tell you what, my kingdom for Standard Text.)
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What's wrong with descending in VS in the terminal area?
 
learhawkerbe400 said:
I think it's been well established that if you need full boards then by all means use them.

The "FAIL" part is if you forced yourself to need them, not ATC. Example, you're 6000' on downwind to 1 in dca with no other planes on frequency and you're doodling down at 1000fpm not even realizing you're high. That's a fail.
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I think it was also a jab at when FOs do what the CA asks and the CA's idea doesn't work. In the video, the FO says "Well I did it your way. Sometimes it just doesn't work."
 
JustinS said:
What's wrong with descending in VS in the terminal area?
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Because veeenaaaavvv!!!
I'm cool either way, so long it fits the arrival, but what do I know, never flew anything bigger than Ultra

PS Did fly the said Ultra with ex airline CAs who were "don't climb in FLC, no auto thrust" (???)
Meh, climb FLC, descent VS unless VNAV available
 
ZapBrannigan said:
I'm a flaps 1 kinda guy. More drag, less noise, doesn't shake the plane as much. And we don't have "spindles" anymore on the NG. If Boeing didn't want you using flaps 1 for drag why does VNAV automatically lock into geometric when as soon as you select flaps?


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Hmm no wonder you guys seem to always be high and unstable. :D
 
Autothrust Blue said:
On the CRJ, nothing at all.

There's nothing "wrong" (in the sense of "verboten") per se with it on the E-jet either, but I found especially flight level change or FPA to be subjectively better modes.
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FLC in the CL30 and CL35 is like what Speed was in the Brasilia. At times, it just turned the plane into a bucking bronco chasing the speed bug. VNAV works great though.

I was with captain on captain the other day, and the other guy always had side talk towards me when I'd engage VNAV in a VNAV descent rather than start it down initially in VS mode.

My response went a little something like this, "I'm PIC today bud. So about you let me fly it the way I want?"

The funny thing is the guy is so uncomfortable with VNAV because he never uses it. We were flying into LAX on one of his legs and he almost missed a bunch of crossing and speed restrictions without me intervening and helping him out because he doesn't understand VNAV mode enough to use it effectively.
 
KLB said:
FLC in the CL30 and CL35 is like what Speed was in the Brasilia. At times, it just turned the plane into a bucking bronco chasing the speed bug. VNAV works great though.

I was with captain on captain the other day, and the other guy always had side talk towards me when I'd engage VNAV in a VNAV descent rather than start it down initially in VS mode.

My response went a little something like this, "I'm PIC today bud. So about you let me fly it the way I want?"

The funny thing is the guy is so uncomfortable with VNAV because he never uses it. We were flying into LAX on one of his legs and he almost missed a bunch of crossing and speed restrictions without me intervening and helping him out because he doesn't understand VNAV mode enough to use it effectively.
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VNAV worked okay to well on the E-jet. Again, this is probably a matter of subjective taste, individual operating style and familiarity/comfort with and comprehension of the autoflight system.

The modes are all there for a reason; some of them work better than others. This is called "technique," which is opposed to "procedure" (which is another way of saying "mandafrakkingtory technique").
 
poser765 said:
I flew with an FO the other day who deployed the speed breaks...FULL speed breaks. I looked down, shocked, looked back up to him, made eye contact and gave him a really approving thumbs up. Everyone is scared to pull that lever all the way down.

Me: "we are still really high and they are going to turn us in pretty tight. Throw the boards out and lets get down."

FO: *uses about half spoilers*

Me: "No throw them all the way out"

FF: "But it's really bumpy and the passengers might not like it..."

Me: *sigh*
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I HATE it when my speed breaks. I mean, I have to take it into the Speed Shop and get it fixed (and getting an appointment is always hard) and they always charge me an arm and a leg.

Or did you mean brakes?
 
Autothrust Blue said:
On the CRJ, nothing at all.

There's nothing "wrong" (in the sense of "verboten") per se with it on the E-jet either, but I found especially flight level change or FPA to be subjectively better modes.
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Unfortunately, 27.1 changed ... something. It's gotten a bit wonky.

-Fox
 
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