Lightspeed L1's

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Our club manager here has the aloft plugs. He likes them so far. Seems to work about as well as my old 20XL Lightspeed he said. Don't know anything about the new L1s.
 
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I've been looking at both of these, also. I think I might try the L1s at the end of the month.

My sigtronics are great for short lessons, but when I make the long trips like the one I made to the bahamas last week, they get very uncomfortable around the three hour time frame...

My only real concern is the cord. Specifically, would it pull when you move your head, with the headset only weighing less than an ounce?
 
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Well, at this point I don't think I have any choice but to go for the L1's. After reading through the specs on both sets, the Clarity's look like a better set in terms of noise reduction. However, I called Lightspeed just a minute ago looking for a schematic to put the headband back together because a piece was broken and I epoxied it and needed some help with reassembling the whole thing.

The gentleman on the phone was amazing. Not only did he offer to send another headband assembly for free, but I got to telling him about how I was going to sell this set and go with either the L1's or the Clarity's and how every headset gives me headaches because of my sunglasses and maybe just sensitivity to pressure on my mellon head. I asked about purchasing new seals because mine are a bit worn, and he offered to not only send one new set for free, but another softer set to try out as well.

It is extremely difficult to find a company with support and service like that. As I said in the beginning, I will no doubt be buying the L1's here shortly.
 
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Excellent! Good to hear you had good experience from Lightspeed. I agree with you on that. It's getting harder and harder to find a company with good customer support that actually cares.
 
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Ask and ye shall receive. Here is a review from July '05 Aviation Consumer on in-ear headsets.

In-the-Ear Headsets: Don’t Buy Yet

The market is in utter flux with at least three new products poised for introduction. Quiet Technologies and Lightspeed are the ones to watch.

by Lionel Lavenue

As an alternative to noggin-crushing conventional headsets, so-called in-the-ear designs offer blessed relief. They’re light, cool in hot weather and the audio performance is excellent. After a so-so market response, interest in these products has picked up since we last reported on them in the February 2003 issue.

Since then, we’ve continued to flight test revisions and improvements of these products, including entries from Quiet Technologies, LightSPEED and a new company called Aloft Technologies. Here’s a brief update on what we’ve learned.

AuriComm II

Over the last two years, Quiet Technologies has discontinued the UltraFlite and AuriComm and replaced them with a single unit, the AuriComm II. The AuriComm II is similar to the original AuriComm with the choice of an optional headband or an improved earpiece, which we strongly prefer over the headband.

The AuriComm II no longer uses the patented Comply foam ear inserts. Instead, unless you choose the custom earmolds, it has a new type of ear insert with a triple-flange rubber silicone eartip. Although we were dubious that this tip would work as well as the Comply tips, we were impressed with the comfort and performance.

As press time, the AuriComm II is still $365 retail ($325 discounted) with a 30-day money-back guarantee. In our view, the AuriComm series remains the benchmark in this class of product and, as noted in the sidebar, an improved version is in the works.

Panther’s CAT

Panther has also improved the original CAT system. In contrast to Quiet Technologies, which offers both custom earmolds and standard eartips, CAT’s claim to fame is its custom earmolds made for just the person using the headset.

We liked the original CAT system, but had problems with the fact that the earpiece also included the mic, causing distracting noises while eating, talking or even breathing. Some users even reported problems talking with ATC. A new version addresses this problem with an improved boom mic, which we haven’t tested. Unfortunately, the price of the CAT system has risen from $495 to $650, twice as much as the AuriComm II. And there’s no money-back guarantee.

Clarity Aloft

The new guy in town is the Clarity Aloft in-the-ear headset by Aloft Technologies. The Clarity is similar to the old UltraFlite by Quiet Technologies, consisting of a headband connected to two earpieces and a boom mic. The eartips are the same technology used in the original AuriComm—Comply foam ear inserts—which we like. Apparently, Aloft is now the exclusive licensee of the patented Comply technology and it’s the only company offering these eartips.

To don the headset, you place the headband around your head behind your ears, then pinch the inserts and stick them into your ear canal. Adjust the boom mic and you’re all set. It’s dirt simple and it works. But the headband is an acquired taste. My in-the-ear testing expert, my wife, Teresa, preferred the AuriComm over the Clarity simply because the AuriComm has no headband.

That said, there are advantages to the headband. It provides more support for the earpieces, so they won’t pop out, and it also makes the boom mic more secure. However, for those attracted to in-the-ear technology for its utter lack of weight, the headband may be an issue.

One thing about the Aloft product surprised us. On its Website, Aloft recommends replacing the Comply eartips every four to five flights. Yet we have used the same eartips for 50 to 60 flights over two years and they’ve only recently started to degrade. Replacement of the eartips is an expense and logistics consideration; they cost about $25 for a dozen.

If a headband doesn’t trouble you, the Clarity Aloft is a good performer and we liked its attractive storage case. However, at $650 retail ($550 discounted), it’s $225 more than the equally capable AuriComm II. Aloft also offers a 30-day money-back guarantee.

L1 by LightSPEED

LightSPEED has heavily marketed its new lightweight headset, the L1, but when we asked for a demo unit, LightSPEED demurred for months. By the time we were sent an L1, LightSPEED was set to discontinue it and introduce a new product. We were surprised to note that the L1 is essentially the same product as the AuriComm II and, in fact, LightSPEED buys the headset from Quiet Technologies and repackages it, with some enhancements.

For one, the control box is unique. It has a dual volume control as well as something very useful: a cellphone and music interface. As far as we know, LightSPEED is the only company to offer an in-the-ear headset with these features. Unfortunately, the interface—but not the headset—requires batteries.

The L1 worked fine, as expected, given that it’s essentially an AuriComm unit. However, instead of a triple-flange eartip offered with the AuriComm II, the L1 comes with three types of eartips. One is similar to the triple-flange but there are also two other compressible foam eartips. LightSPEED says they’re the only company currently offering a variety of eartips for different sized ears. Lightspeed also offers custom earmolds by special order. As noted in the sidebar, LightSPEED is introducing a clean-sheet design and we recommend examining that product before buying.

Don’t Buy Now

Two years ago, we declared the original AuriComm as the winner. For the time being, that conclusion stands. Given AuriComm’s expertise, we have confidence its new product will perform well, too. But with so many new products planned, our advice is don’t buy now. Wait until later in the year when the market clarifies. If you simply can’t wait, you won’t go wrong with the AuriComm. The Clarity is a good second choice.


Here is a suppliment with the article about what is to come.
(sorry about the way it pasted)

As we prepared this report, we were
astonished by the new developments
in the in-the-ear headset
market, with three of the four manufacturers
planning announcements
at Oshkosh in July.
Quiet Technologies will introduce
the AuriComm III, which will have a
new earpiece—or “earhook” as they
call it—to support
various types of
eartips, including
custom earmolds.
The headband will
still be available, but
only upon request
for hard-to-fi t heads.
As for the ever-important
eartips, the
AuriComm III will
have three options:
the rubber triple-
fl ange, foam and custom earmolds.
The new AuriComm III will also
have a new high-performance noisecanceling
mic, which Quiet says will
be the “smallest on the planet.” A
new control box will have volume
controls, a cellphone interface but no
music input. And notably, unlike the
Lightspeed L1, the interface won’t require
batteries. The new design will
include a new noise-control feature
as an option for those in low-to-moderate
noise-level aircraft.
Quiet has kept quiet about the
AuriComm III, disclosing it for the
first time to Aviation Consumer. They
promise that it’s lightyears ahead of
the competition. Projected price of
the new unit is $375, a $50 increase.
LightSPEED, not to be outdone,
also plans to announce a new
product at OSH. Although its name is
still secret or undecided, the project
is currently known as, you guessed
it, L2. LightSPEED promises the L2
will be “dramatically diff erent from
anything on the market.” For example,
the control box will be more
sophisticated than the L1, with both a
new cellphone interface and a music
interface. The number of available
eartips will increase, possibly off ering
as many as fi ve diff erent types to
guarantee a fi t in even the most dif-
fi cult ear canal. (See photo at left for
examples.)
Aloft Technologies also has plans
for an Oshkosh announcement but
they declined to provide details,
other than to say the new headset
will have stereo, an upgrade from the
current monaural product.
Panther Electronics says its soonto-
be-introduced featherweight
contender is the Pilot Pro, which is a
Bluetooth headset combined with
the CATS earmolds. The Bluetooth
mic/receiver headset is similar to the
wireless units available for cellphones
and there’s no cable between the
headset and the aircraft.
The headset has a rechargeable
battery and a controller interfaces
to the aircraft, which has a volume
control for the wireless headset.
Panther said it would release this new
combination headset in late May or
early June 2005, well in advance of
Oshkosh. As of our deadline, a price
had not yet been set.
Way More in the Works
 
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Thanks for posting that. The guy on the phone today did mention the new set debuting at Oshkosh. He wouldn't tell me anything other than I might want to wait, but if it has some more expensive features it will be out of my range anyway. Upon searching, I did find one site that was taking preorders on a set called the Lightspeed Mach 1. It didn't mention any new features other than lighter weight material, but the price is $100 more.

As long as the L1's perform close to the 20XL2's I have now (I know the L1's are passive, while my XL2's are active), I should be pleased. The fact that in-the-ear should relieve my headaches after long flying stints will be well worth a few other sacrifices.
 
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What's wrong with DCs? Is this something I should consider for my flight training?
 
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Everyone's comfort level is different. I had a set of DC's once, and went over to the Lightspeed 20XL2's because the DC's were giving me massive headaches during my instrument training. Because I am completely lost without my Oakleys in the air, even the Lightspeeds cause too much pressure on my head after extended usage.

The DC's acheive their great noise reduction by clamping your head like a freakin' vice. A lot of guys wear them and love them. I don't. Don't let my thread deter you from trying them out. They do provide a great level of passive noise reduction, they just won't work for me.
 
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I would never have a passive headset other than the in-ear type. I love my 20XL's.
 
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I agree. I wouldn't even think about passive for anything other than in-ear as you mentioned. DC's 13.4's (the ones I was referring to in my earlier post) do a great job for what they are, but for being passive only, I think they are priced pretty high.

I guess Sporty's and DC have some sort of deal struck between themselves because most FBO's aren't allowed to undercut Sporty's prices on DC headsets if they want to buy direct from DC. At least that is the word I got from my boss/fbo owner today when inquiring about any headset discounts.

On a side note, I just ordered my L1's. Got them sent USPS Express (Overnight) for 17.85. No, not the headsets for 17.85.
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I wish.
 
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Let us (me)know how you like them... in about a week or so I'll be ordering a new headset, and the L1 is at the top of my list so far...

Have you found them anywhere for less than $399? EVERYWHERE I've looked is that price, Lightspeed must have some blanket statement that you can't sell them less than $399 for some reason...
 
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Yep, I figure they are just like David Clark in that you can't sell them below certain prices. That, or there isn't much mark up in the MSRP, but they can't go higher to stay competitive.

I'll definitely post back after I have used them this weekend.
 
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I got the L1's in the mail yesterday morning. They were in the mail on the way back by 2pm. They had to be the most uncomfortable things I have ever seen. The foam plug attaches to a little white post, which is then attached to a black box about 1/2"x1/4". This box actually has to find a comfortable place to sit in your ear, which was impossible for me.

They send a variety of ear tips and I sat for almost two hours trying to find something that would work, but after that period of time, a break and then trying again, the outside of my ear was so sore from that black box that I just said forget it. This picture gives a pretty good idea of how they sit in your ear:

http://www.avshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=6598

I don't want to deter anyone from trying them since Lightspeed offers a 30 day money back guarantee, they just won't work for me.
 
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It may be too late to matter, but my wife has the Auricoms and loves them. She will not go back to using her Lightspeed 25XL which is known as both a comfortable and quiet headset.


They don't work for me but I sure wish they did. The sound quality is excellent, as is the quality of the mike. The problem for me is that the largest plugs they came with aren't tight enough to keep the boom mike in place for me but this isn't a problem for my wife so she gets the benefit of no headset hair, and no hot sweaty ears in the summer.

YMMV

Tiger815
 
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Well,

I ordered mine only seconds before I read your post...

HOPEFULLY, they'll be good for me, if not, I'll send them back too... But I had to wear something similar in the plant on the ship for the navy, so I'm used to having something in my ear.

I ordered them because I've got another Bahamas trip on next sunday, and I KNOW my current headset will hurt and give ma a headache after the 9 hours of flying.

They should be here thursday...
 
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Do you have a link for the Auricoms? I have to wait for the Lightspeeds to get back before I can buy another set anyway.

Grabo, The plugs didnt bother me, it was that black box. Maybe my ear isn't within the realm of their testing when they R&D'd the set. When I was trying them out, I just couldn't believe that they would make something so boxy that they expected to sit in your ear comfortably.

Let me know when you get them so I can get an idea if it was just me or what.
 
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Those look IDENTICAL to the L1's. Weird because if they are, they are $75 cheaper through that site. I should call and ask about the similarity and maybe if they are made by Lightspeed but repackaged and sold under a different name.

EDIT: Wow, after reading their manual and looking at more pictures they look like a blend of the Lightspeeds and Clarity's. They use the same foam tips as the Clarity's, but they still have that black box that the L1's have.
 
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