LGA accident

nc1982 said:
Not sure about your shop but there’s been an increase in fumes events at our shop. Have you seen the effects of fumes to your body? This is not about losing your license this is about your long term health.

I ain’t staying in a tube breathing god knows what waiting. If you have to declare to get out of that situation you declare.

Like you said this was a classic Swiss cheese.
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Reminds me of that incident with the US 767 where they had a fume event and most of the crew ended up with brain injuries, cancers and strokes in the long run.
 
CFI A&P said:
Not sure why you’re trying to get off heading here, anywho…. The latest TA/RA to make the news didn’t involve a 91/135 aircraft either.

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I’ve reached a point nowhere before I go further arguing my industry, I’d like to know if the person involved is also a 121 pilot.

Yes?


You seem to give an airliners.net forum bro vibe.
 
FlyingAccountant said:
Reminds me of that incident with the US 767 where they had a fume event and most of the crew ended up with brain injuries, cancers and strokes in the long run.
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I may have told this story before but if not... When I was based in Dayton, one of the FAs on the flight often commuted down to CLT on flights I was deadheading on or working. I didn't see her for a while, and then saw her again about a year after the incident when I was deadheading to Charlotte. She was going down there to see some neurological specialist. She looked about 30 years old, had really bad tremors, and a lot of difficulty finding words. It was super sad to see. I think out of the whole crew, only one of the FOs went back to work.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I’ve reached a point nowhere before I go further arguing my industry, I’d like to know if the person involved is also a 121 pilot.

Yes?


You seem to give an airliners.net forum bro vibe.
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Your "bro vibe" is to crap on any pilot or operation that isn't 121.

How about "if your advanced multi-engine training wasn't low level cross countries in formation with other B-25's then you suck"?

Or maybe "If you didn't learn basic aerobatics in primary training in a Stearman you suck"?

Or "If you didn't have Horsepower Ratings on.your license and make Captain on a plane with 4 Wright 3350's you suck"?

My grandpa and a vast majority of his peers/friends could say something akin to all that. Yet I never heard him (or any of his friends for that matter) ooze the kind of aerial elitism you throw out. It's truly odd.

I'd be willing to bet @MikeD would tell you he was sharper flying the Air net Lear than he is today. @Boris Badenov ditto in his MU2 days.
 
WacoFan said:
Your "bro vibe" is to crap on any pilot or operation that isn't 121.

How about "if your advanced multi-engine training wasn't low level cross countries in formation with other B-25's then you suck"?

Or maybe "If you didn't learn basic aerobatics in primary training in a Stearman you suck"?

Or "If you didn't have Horsepower Ratings on.your license and make Captain on a plane with 4 Wright 3350's you suck"?

My grandpa and a vast majority of his peers/friends could say something akin to all that. Yet I never heard him (or any of his friends for that matter) ooze the kind of aerial elitism you throw out. It's truly odd.

I'd be willing to bet @MikeD would tell you he was sharper flying the Air net Lear than he is today. @Boris Badenov ditto in his MU2 days.
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I didn't realize Mike flew the Airnet Lear.
 
killbilly said:
And the Dutch.
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In your defense, @MikeD seems to have flown just about everything with wings (fixed and rotating), so it wouldn't surprise me if he had some Lear time...

And yes, I was just talking about this with another former check hauler tonight (last night, whatever) around 30W. We both agreed that we were as sharp at physically flying an airplane as we were ever gonna get, back then.

Now, were we excellent systems-managers with impeccable Judgement and a solid plan B, C, and D for any eventuality? Maybe less so.
 
WacoFan said:
Your "bro vibe" is to crap on any pilot or operation that isn't 121.

How about "if your advanced multi-engine training wasn't low level cross countries in formation with other B-25's then you suck"?

Or maybe "If you didn't learn basic aerobatics in primary training in a Stearman you suck"?

Or "If you didn't have Horsepower Ratings on.your license and make Captain on a plane with 4 Wright 3350's you suck"?

My grandpa and a vast majority of his peers/friends could say something akin to all that. Yet I never heard him (or any of his friends for that matter) ooze the kind of aerial elitism you throw out. It's truly odd.

I'd be willing to bet @MikeD would tell you he was sharper flying the Air net Lear than he is today. @Boris Badenov ditto in his MU2 days.
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I know MikeD’s background. Yours I don’t. That’s why I asked. You know mine.


Most of my comments on Corp/Mil/GArpies are said in jest. I clearly have stated in the past I have zero experience with military and corporate.
 
Is the truck that was hit actually Truck 1? The video is pretty fuzzy, but it appears there is another vehicle that actually stopped on the south edge of Twy D at an angle to give a better view of the runway.
 
FlyingAccountant said:
Reminds me of that incident with the US 767 where they had a fume event and most of the crew ended up with brain injuries, cancers and strokes in the long run.
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These fume events don't get NEARLY enough media coverage. We do ADs and ground fleets for less serious events seeing as dozens and dozens of flights have had fume events cause serious, and sometimes permanent, ailments. The planes go right back into service. I've looked up 2 different yellow A320s after events listed on AVHerald and both were back in service within 48 hours...after crew members got hospitalized. They seem to rarely find a cause. I worked a BA A380 as a ramp controller once that diverted to YVR with 30+ hospitalized IIRC. Barely made local news.

I guess ops check good so "inshallah".
 
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