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I think I saw that he was doing a delivery flight. I’m clueless why they’d “deliver” it to Japan, unless it was going directly into service there for some reason(?).
Airbus builds a 350. Period. And then it’s modified by the customer “to spec”. And that’s generally done somewhere in Asia.
When I was a passenger on a delivery flight, the 330 came to the US and got the interior gutted and reconfigured before hitting revenue service.
When I was a passenger on a delivery flight, the 330 came to the US and got the interior gutted and reconfigured before hitting revenue service.
What if I told you that most of my flying starts with arriving at the layover hotel roughly when I’d be going to bed in PHX, followed by a long layover?
DE727UPS
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What's the average "long layover" and what's the shortest that wasn't due to IROP. Back maybe 10 years ago when I was doing some international we had a LOT of 24 hour scheduled layovers.What if I told you that most of my flying starts with arriving at the layover hotel roughly when I’d be going to bed in PHX, followed by a long layover?
Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
What if I told you that most of my flying starts with arriving at the layover hotel roughly when I’d be going to bed in PHX, followed by a long layover?
Plus you get to nap half the way!
Interesting route. I’ll always remember after the war started coming up front because I couldn’t sleep on break. Looked at the ND and saw we were somewhere near Shemya. When I sat down I saw a plane out the window, so I zoomed in with my camera and was surprised to see that it was Air France headed home from Asia. Hadn’t really considered the implications for them at the time.
arkflyr
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I hated 24 hour layovers when I was flying long haul stuff. I’d rather do a 12 hour, or at least 36 hour.
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
Taking the chain to the supply.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Coooooool.
Apropos...Finnair are having a hard time right now for a few reasons (SLL, their pilot union, are actually also on strike at the moment, refusing what we'd call inverse assignments and the like) but the biggest is the closure of Russian airspace, which has resulted in them taking the long way around (this is from 2022, but the facts are unchanged):
www.nytimes.com
And here's them taking the 350 over the pole. It apparently adds something like 2-3 hours to the Helsinki-Tokyo schlep.
JFK-GRU on my OE was done with four pilots and everyone involved got most of a full night's sleep, which was frankly marvelous.
Apropos...Finnair are having a hard time right now for a few reasons (SLL, their pilot union, are actually also on strike at the moment, refusing what we'd call inverse assignments and the like) but the biggest is the closure of Russian airspace, which has resulted in them taking the long way around (this is from 2022, but the facts are unchanged):
How Finnair’s Huge Bet on Faster Flights to Asia Suddenly Came Undone (Published 2022)
When Russia closed its airspace, it upended the decades-long strategy for making Finland a European travel hub to and from the East.
And here's them taking the 350 over the pole. It apparently adds something like 2-3 hours to the Helsinki-Tokyo schlep.
Proper bunks are nice. Rest seats are less nice to varying degrees and I'm still upset at the decisions of generations previous on letting the bunkrooms go. Four pilots = great. Three pilots, less great.
JFK-GRU on my OE was done with four pilots and everyone involved got most of a full night's sleep, which was frankly marvelous.
Exactly!
Europe to Asia is a hot mess at the moment. I saw some KLM pilots at the Flight Data Centre and asked them about their normal routes… they were not happy, but were supportive of Ukraines right to defend itself.
The shortest I’ve seen is about 22h after HND-DTW. The longest, well, it might be days like 96 in PVG but they’re seasonal and rare.
But out of DTW in Deember, it’s 21h in HND for the shortest and about 46 DTW-ICN.
For me, Asia is easy. Europe, again, is kicking my ass at the moment, but I’m not on a normal pairing.
ahw01
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Waves from Nigel-Land
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
It's always odd to hear Speedbird over the North Pacific.
It's definitely interesting. The GPS is always getting jammed. You get a couple hours of peace, then you have to deal with China. I have Kazakhstan on my schedule coming up, which should be interesting. That'll be the closest to Russia I have landed.
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
Upper Alaska wasn't closer? Or are you going into Northern Kazak?
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
That's a good point. Those were closer. But it was also a different political climate at that time.
Autothrust Blue
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“Cold this morning…”
Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
Seems the couple times I’ve done it over the last few years it’s always been fun approaching Azerbaijan. Squeezing between Russia and Iran was made more difficult because of weather that always seemed to in the worst possible spot.
Screaming_Emu
Joe Conventional
I’ve had one Almaty overnight and it was pretty cool. Definitely want to explore more.