Murdoughnut
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Okay, I gotta hear this. How?
http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/the-lancair-iv-unsafe-at-any-speed.37958/
Okay, I gotta hear this. How?
What was worse were all the passing drivers trying to take pictures of the wreckage with their cell phones.I can't believe it's even a debate in this day and age, much less among pilots. Of course it's friggin safer to not dick around with your electronics while you're navigating a multiple-thousand-pound vehicle at 70+ mph mere feet away from other idiots doing the same thing. I swear everyday driver behavior is glaring evidence that technology has far outstripped any kind of evolutionary self-preservation instinct we had left.
Because they're experimentals with an assumed level of risk and by and large they're killing owner-pilots.Why is this discussion focusing on the car instead of the Lancair, which is the MU-2 of piston singles?
I have to assume it's the typical "Doctor Killer" scenario. Relatively low time pilot who doesn't fly but maybe 100 hours a year with no previous foundation slugging it out to form judgement and muscle memory. Put into a very high performance piston single.Because they're experimentals with an assumed level of risk and by and large they're killing owner-pilots.
What was worse were all the passing drivers trying to take pictures of the wreckage with their cell phones.
... a parked car is an obstetrical as much as a tree or anything else ...
Well, Like the MU-2, the Gear in the lancair causes so much excessive drag, raising, lowering, keeping them up, or even keeping them down has a 100% rate of the airplane hitting the ground sometime shortly after an engine failure....Okay, I gotta hear this. How?
Was this near an airport, i.e. plane lost an engine at a critical phase of flight? Otherwise, if this was a dead stick landing, a parked car is an obstetrical as much as a tree or anything else. I will be very curious to ever learn the trajectory of this flight from the emergency to touching down 40 feet behind a parked car and slamming into it.
Horrible way to die. I only hope that if I take out anyone on the ground, I don't live to ever know. That said, no need for anyone else to pass. Hopefully the PIC will pull through, and hopefully we find out a forced landing on that spot was unavoidable. Good luck if it was a move of sheer panic. Would not wish that on any pilot.![]()
I read the same thing. The previous owner landed the plane on I-15 further south near Rancho Bernardo. Some sort of fuel issue if I remember correctly.Last night the local news was reporting that this was the second time that same Lancair had landed on that road, apparently a previous owner was a big league baseball player that had an engine failure. Not sure if it's true, but that would be quite a coincidence.
Was this near an airport, i.e. plane lost an engine at a critical phase of flight? Otherwise, if this was a dead stick landing, a parked car is an obstetrical as much as a tree or anything else. I will be very curious to ever learn the trajectory of this flight from the emergency to touching down 40 feet behind a parked car and slamming into it.
Horrible way to die. I only hope that if I take out anyone on the ground, I don't live to ever know. That said, no need for anyone else to pass. Hopefully the PIC will pull through, and hopefully we find out a forced landing on that spot was unavoidable. Good luck if it was a move of sheer panic. Would not wish that on any pilot.![]()
Was this near an airport, i.e. plane lost an engine at a critical phase of flight? Otherwise, if this was a dead stick landing, a parked car is an obstetrical as much as a tree or anything else. I will be very curious to ever learn the trajectory of this flight from the emergency to touching down 40 feet behind a parked car and slamming into it.
Autocorrect has spoken.
A lot of terrain around there, but also a lot of places where no one on the ground would be hurt yet it could be set down with survivable impact forces. You know, not to mention a private airstrip elevated higher than the freeway and right next to it(if it was reachable). Or, you know, the big long dirt road along side the airstrip. Or the grassy hills. Or anywhere that wasn't 40 feet behind an occupied stationary vehicle. Again,if this even was an engine out and he was high enough to glide a bit. Now it seems even more odd to me, I'll look forward to the report and hope this guy just didn't have the control or altitude to reach a better spot...If you put the coords below in Skyvector, you can get an idea of the area. Not exact, but close.
N33 20.41 W117 09.62
Never go full retard.
More stupid!Do Simple Jack!
Autocorrect has spoken.
A lot of terrain around there, but also a lot of places where no one on the ground would be hurt yet it could be set down with survivable impact forces. You know, not to mention a private airstrip elevated higher than the freeway and right next to it(if it was reachable). Or, you know, the big long dirt road along side the airstrip. Or the grassy hills. Or anywhere that wasn't 40 feet behind an occupied stationary vehicle. Again,if this even was an engine out and he was high enough to glide a bit. Now it seems even more odd to me, I'll look forward to the report and hope this guy just didn't have the control or altitude to reach a better spot...
Never go full retard.
Autocorrect has spoken.
A lot of terrain around there, but also a lot of places where no one on the ground would be hurt yet it could be set down with survivable impact forces. You know, not to mention a private airstrip elevated higher than the freeway and right next to it(if it was reachable). Or, you know, the big long dirt road along side the airstrip. Or the grassy hills. Or anywhere that wasn't 40 feet behind an occupied stationary vehicle. Again,if this even was an engine out and he was high enough to glide a bit. Now it seems even more odd to me, I'll look forward to the report and hope this guy just didn't have the control or altitude to reach a better spot...
Never go full retard.