KPWM - Yow!

That sounds almost as much fun as my flight in there last Friday. It was down to 1/2 mile 100 feet but the glideslope worked. We ended up doing the TOGA flaps 8 thing the first time. Right as I pushed the levers forward the captain saw the runway. The thing that made it more interesting was it was 11:00pm and I had been handflying since 17,000ft since the storms and turb were so bad.

I made it in on the second approach, and that runway gets really short.
 
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People deplaning had no idea that I got about six grey hairs tonight!
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Eh, those things pretty much fly themselves, don't they? You're just a well-paid systems monitor, right?


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Some of us have become that, for all intents and purposes.
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One of my mates at BA short one of the toughest approaches in his life - mins, wind, etc. Was just please to get the airplane down, and to the get in one piece. Standing awfully proud of his accomplishment landing the aircraft, he was saying bye to the passengers, and this one guy said 'that was a bit rough wasn't it?' Really took the wind out of his sails - in a situation like that a landing is a landing - smooth, rough it does not matter.
 
I guess you'd get in trouble for replying along the lines of "yea, but I figured you'd appreciate not haveing to take a 2hr bus ride from the airport we would of had to divert to if the wind had been one knt stronger"
 
People have the strange impression that after taking off at 149,000 pounds, flying at mach .79 thru all sorts of weather, shooting an instrument approach to minimums and landing in the touchdown zone safely, that my biggest concern about the flight is a 'smooth landing'!

Someone made the comment that I was a 'carrier pilot' landing in KJAX today - which I really didn't understand because the approach and landing were ok. Heck, I didn't even use reversers during deceleration.

But "Leroy" (as I call everyone who I don't know names of), just had to make some comment I gather.

At my last airline, I witnessed a captain say "Oh yeah, why don't we put you in the left seat and see how well you do, Sparky!" after a turbulent approach in KDSM.
 
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At my last airline, I witnessed a captain say "Oh yeah, why don't we put you in the left seat and see how well you do, Sparky!" after a turbulent approach in KDSM.

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lol, thats awesome
 
I once made a landing so hard going into SAV that I held a contest for best comments during deplaining. But I told them no navy pilot jokes because that was too easy. You could tell I really put them on the spot because several people looked at me, paused, and just laughed. No one had any relly good ones or original ones.

I always worried about the landings, just a point of pride. Fred Boone once told me I had made ths smoothest landing he had ever seen in a 737-200. I don't know if he told all his FOs that, but coming from Fred I never forgot it. (This is Doug trivia here)

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Someone made the comment that I was a 'carrier pilot' landing in KJAX today - which I really didn't understand because the approach and landing were ok. Heck, I didn't even use reversers during deceleration.

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You know there are arresting wires at JAX. I'm too lazy to get out my AFD to check which runway.

I prefer Cleetus to Leroy.
 
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Someone made the comment that I was a 'carrier pilot' landing in KJAX today - which I really didn't understand because the approach and landing were ok. Heck, I didn't even use reversers during deceleration.

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You know there are arresting wires at JAX. I'm too lazy to get out my AFD to check which runway.



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It's got a pair of BAK-14s on 7-25 for the FANGs birds.
 
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Someone made the comment that I was a 'carrier pilot' landing in KJAX today - which I really didn't understand because the approach and landing were ok. Heck, I didn't even use reversers during deceleration.

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You know there are arresting wires at JAX. I'm too lazy to get out my AFD to check which runway.



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It's got a pair of BAK-14s on 7-25 for the FANGs birds.

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ENGLISH Mike!!!!!!!
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Not all of us speak military jibberish
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Someone made the comment that I was a 'carrier pilot' landing in KJAX today - which I really didn't understand because the approach and landing were ok. Heck, I didn't even use reversers during deceleration.

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You know there are arresting wires at JAX. I'm too lazy to get out my AFD to check which runway.



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It's got a pair of BAK-14s on 7-25 for the FANGs birds.

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ENGLISH Mike!!!!!!!
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Most military and joint-use runways have two separate aircraft stopping systems: arresting gear, and aircraft barriers.

Arresting gear is designed to be engaged by tailhook-equipped aircraft and consists of a wire strung across the runway at various points and either supported by rubber "donuts" designed to keep the wire about 2 inches above the runway surface (that's the case with BAK-6/9/12 and13 or E-27/E-28 at USN/USMC bases), or recessed in a slot on the runway and raised by remote control as needed (BAK-14). When engaged by an aircraft, the wires run out and are connected at each end to a box on both sides of the runway that contains the stopping mechanism. The stopping mechanism consists of brake pads on a caliper that engage a rotor at a certain rate, stopping the aircraft; or a hydraulic "water squeezer" (on BAK-6) that engages a piston pushing against water inside a tube for "hydraulic" stopping ability. On the airport diagram, the arresting gear is depicted as a one-or two-way arrows near the approach, center, and/or departure ends of the runway. One-way arrows indicate single-direction arrestment, two-way arrows indicate bi-directional arrestment ability. See here where it's depicted:

http://www.fltplan.com/AwDisplayAppChart.exe?a=1

Aircraft barriers are located at the departure ends of the runway and are designed to either "catch" the aircraft's wings, or it's main landing gear. Older systems, such as the MA-1A, consist of a approximately 6 inch high wire hooked to a 2-foot recessed net that lays flat on the runway. As the aircraft passes into the overrun, it's nosewheel runs over the 6-inch high wire causing the 2 foot high net to spring-up and engage the main landing gear of the aircraft, bringing it to a stop in the overrun. Newer barriers, such as the BAK-15, are raised by remote control from the tower and consist of a 23 foot high net supported by stanchions on each side of the runway, similiar to those emergency barriers aboard aircraft carriers, that catch the aircraft's wings as the aircraft passes through it, and stops the aircraft in the overrun. On the airport diagram, the barriers are depicted as a vvvv looking symbol at the end of the runway. On the previous diagram, see the departure ends of runways 16 and 25.

Some military aircraft, such as the F-4, F-117, B-52, and some foreign versions of the F-16, still utilize drag chutes that are deployed on landing in order to shorten landing roll in normal ops, and as an abort aid for takeoff emergencies.

Other airports: ABQ has BAK-12/14, while TUS has BAK-12, BAK-12/14, and MA-1A MODified.

http://www.fltplan.com/AwDisplayAppChart.exe?a=1

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Sounds like a typical summer night in PWM.

I was based there with my last company flying the 1900. More nights like that than I care to remember.

Anyone know when they are going to finish resurfacing 11/29?
 
BAK14 is NOTAM'D OTS!

Captain I flew with into KJAX was a F-15 guard guy at KJAX. Great guy, kept on pumping up my ego over my performance in KPWM last night.

Geez, I didn't think it was THAT great, but kudos are kudos.

Tonight he told me an old story about when he was on a delay in DFW and some folks from first class told a 7 year old to approach the cockpit and ask how much the captain made.

He turned to the kid and said, "Well, sometimes I'm overpaid, other times I've way underpaid, but it averages out to appropriately paid"
 
Man sounds as "good" as my day ...

Departed Telluride CO. (for Eagle Co), which sits on a 1000' mesa with a note on the airport page about strong vertical turbulence. The Wx wasn't too bad but the turbulence is moderate and while climbing in the holding pattern I had a master warning light come on for a bleed air leak ( hot air escaping possibly near a fuel system. Shortly after dealing with that issue I get a master caution for a fuel transfer failure ... as soon as that is taken care of, shortly after leveling off at FL210 I get a master warning with a door unsafe indicator ... then BOOM ... the door blows open ... rapid decompression ... emergency decent to 15,000 ... remember I'm in the rockies IMC. I do the prodedure and while descending at 20 degrees nose down my airspeed starts a precipedous decay ... What the heck is going on ... oh a pilot pitot heat failure and yes I'm picking up ice, I brief my copilot to maintain power for specified airpspeed as his airspeed indicator is still working, I consider trasfering controls but he hasn't been in an airplane for almost a year and has his hands full as it is. I get a report from the back that the boss is possibly haveing a heart attack so I begin the ILS 17 approach into Montrose CO., problem is I haven't had time to brief or even review the approach ... time is critical because the boss's isn't looking very good ... I enter a one turn hold to loose the altitude and get a quick approach brief done. The WX is at mins and we break out right at the DH. Time of flight about 30 min.

Yeah I was in the sim again. Aint it fun.
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My same mate was flying a 767 up to GLA (A 40 minutes flight), the plane was light, slight head wind and was shooting a approach with a ground speed of that of a 172'

He was by the door, and an old guy complained how fast the approach was and how he was going to write to BA. He was off into the jettie before my mate could say anything - but he laughs about that.
 
Not after today ...
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Actually I was doing FSI B-200 refresher for my part time gig (soon to be full time gig via Kuwait ), as a C-12 pilot for the Army National Guard. So I was here on the Gov't nickel and the sim IP was a retired Army C-12 pilot so yeah I guess you could say he was a friend. I absoultely got my monies worth as this was probably the best refresher I ever attended. He definately challenged me, with no complaints from me.
I seem to have an afinity for tough sim IP's, again no complaints from me except this one time when I was single engine, loss of pressurization (due to the engine exploding), emer descent, one set of speed brakes stuck in the extended position on the level off, picking up ice, a useless copilot ...
Yea buddy fun times.

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