KingAir Accident

yes, a KA does pretty well on only one engine. You even have enough power to do a single engine go around if you really need to. Its not necessarily fun but I've done it before. Not an easy video to watch especially knowing there is no walking away from this accident.
 
moxiepilot said:
Raiders of the lost arc. next.
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How about "I have had it with these mother [explitive] snakes on this mother [explitive] plane!"

Er, wait that's too easy. You'd think it would be easier to find movie quotes having to do with snakes and planes... :smoke:
 
Well since we're in full on speculation mode, I'll say that it looked to me like he was hauling ass. If choosing between "snap roll" and "snagged a wire", I'd bet on the wire.

Edit: Although. Flaps appear to be up, and there's definitely some cross control involved. Dunno. I guess we're all going to have to...WAIT FOR THE ACCIDENT REPORT! *DUM DUM DUM!*
 
Hacker15e said:
Watching it on a big screen, you can definitely see the increase in AOA as (it appears) the pilot tries to salvage the over-shot final turn.
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What happens there? Are we seeing a cross-control stall? --no, cause he is fast....definitely the overshoot, the pitch up......

I am on page 1 so apologies to pages 2 and on if this has been answered.
 
Some information here:

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=145223

A Beechcraft C90B King Air crashed on final, about 300 metres short of the runway of Comandante Rolim Adolfo Amaro State Airport - SBJD, Jundiaí, SP, and caught fire.
The aircraft was on a pre re-deliver test flight after maintenance work and the pilot reported that he lost power and altitude shortly after takeoff and he tried to return before he crashed near Escola Técnica Benedito Storani (a school for technical education), at Avenida Antônio Pincinato (street).
 
It looks like a cross control stall, which i think normally happens at slower speeds. Lets say though, from our perspective, he over shoots with a dead left engine (from the video POV,) goes cross control with rudder into the dead engine and ailerons away from it, and a high AOA to bleed off speed, would that be enough to produce a roll at high airspeed like the one seen?

I'm just trying to think what would be most likely if if any normal pilot found themselves in that situation and decided they weren't going to go around.
 
It is surprising how fast that thing went belly up. I sure hate to see those folks go like that.
 
I think it was caused by either reaching for the crossword or getting angry at Angry Birds. Where are the accident nazis? "YOU CAN NEVER SPECULATE!!!!! YAWWWWR!!!"
 
I'd venture that the yaw forces of the thrust asymmetry present with an engine failure would be enough to roll the airplane over like that without any other additional factors.

Just as an aside, if any of you haven't had the chance in an airplane to go explore accelerated stalls or other high-AOA maneuvering, I highly recommend seeking it out. Different airplanes have some starkly different behaviors at high AOA -- many of them don't have the nice, straight-ahead recoveries that most pilots are exposed to during their training in GA airplanes. Some of them do some very wild things at high AOA (or post-stall), like snap over on their back in the blink of an eye.

As has been stated many times before (especially after the Colgan crash), just training to "stall prevention" doesn't do anything to enhance a pilot's ability to deal with things if there *is* a stall.
 
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