King Air EFB approval process

[Inverted25]

So I am in the process of getting our King Airs to be approved for EFB. Question for those of you who have them approved in your planes. Where did you mount them that satisfied the FAA for use during critical phases? I am stumbling over that since it cant cover up switches or instruments. Also if anyone is willing to let me see there manual section for EFB use that would be great because the guidance I have for what must be in it leaves it really up to your imagination. I mean the AC covers what should be addressed but I am curious how some operators have worded theirs so I had some guidance.

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

We should be doing the 6 month trial period or whatever soon in the Metro. I'll let you know how we do it.

 

[mogley68]

So I am in the process of getting our King Airs to be approved for EFB. Question for those of you who have them approved in your planes. Where did you mount them that satisfied the FAA for use during critical phases? I am stumbling over that since it cant cover up switches or instruments. Also if anyone is willing to let me see there manual section for EFB use that would be great because the guidance I have for what must be in it leaves it really up to your imagination. I mean the AC covers what should be addressed but I am curious how some operators have worded theirs so I had some guidance.

What model King Air? 91 or 135?

 

[1wrangler]

I used to fly a Beech 99 (135 freight) for a company which had iPad mini approval with the use of a kneeboard. We were required to have them strapped to our leg during the critical phases. Also, the iPad mini is the perfect size for the cockpit in my opinion. I hope this helps at least a little.

 

[Fly_Unity]

I wrote our manuals and got it approved. We use a strap, and strap it to our leg during the critical phase of flight. PM me your email.

 

[fly02]

I second the iPad mini recommendation.

 

[Inverted25]

What model King Air? 91 or 135?

King Air 200 135

 

[Fly_Unity]

I second the iPad mini recommendation.

The iPad Mini is to small to be certified for 135 as the primary or the backup.

 

[Dugie8]

The iPad Mini is to small to be certified for 135 as the primary or the backup.

Really? Is that in the AC, what screen size is acceptable? I ask because we used Fujitsu, old school widows based EFBs, whose screen is about the same size as a mini.

 

[tiredcfi]

The iPad Mini is to small to be certified for 135 as the primary or the backup.

It seems as if this isn't the case anymore. My shop is currently working on mini testing and approval. As in, the POI said they will approve the mini once we get all of our stuff in order.

 

[1wrangler]

The iPad Mini is to small to be certified for 135 as the primary or the backup.

That might be the opinion of one FSDO, but I worked for a 135 company which had iPad mini approval for both the primary and the backup.

 

[skypilot6]

These are the iPad Kneeboards we have that we used during the approval process.

http://www.pilotmall.com/product/Sk...r=googlefeed&gclid=CIWqsd_D4r0CFUpnOgodBV0AHA

they are nice, and fairly durable. my company had name plates made up to stick to the outside over to tell who's is who's.

 

[Fly_Unity]

It seems as if this isn't the case anymore. My shop is currently working on mini testing and approval. As in, the POI said they will approve the mini once we get all of our stuff in order.

Yes, Our POI said the same thing, but then they pulled the mini out of the list of approved devices due to this paragragh in the AC. The reason is that the screen is not as big as paper unless it is zoomed, but then it dont show the whole plate at once. So it was pulled. Each FSDO may have a different interpatation of the paragragh. But better to find out for sure now than than to buy a whole fleet of mini's that you cant use down the road.

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC 20-173.pdf

(2) Screen Size and Resolution. When utilizing the EFB to replace paper products,
the screen size and resolution should be designed to display information in a comparable manner
to paper aeronautical charts and the data it is intended to replace. For example, the screen should
be able to display a standard instrument approach procedure (IAP) chart in an acceptable
aeronautical chart format similar to a published paper chart. The screen should be large enough
to show the entire IAP chart at once, with the equivalent degree of legibility and clarity as a
paper chart. This is not meant to preclude panning and zooming features, but is intended to
prevent a workload increase during the approach phase of flight. Alternate representations of
IAP and other navigation charts will need to be evaluated by the FAA Aircraft Evaluation
Groups (AEG).