kinda excited

supercell86 said:
Your right....and your def. qualified for the position, but hear me out on this. I'd rather have a pilot with a high school diploma, and no college with 2000 hours of flight time than a pilot with 8 years of college with 500 hours of flight time....I'm not saying your not qualified, I just don't think college should matter, I think the primary thing that airlines should look at is TT College is great, but seriously I don't need to practice doing works cited pages so I can do the VOR approach into runway 1. And I know I'll hear, "well it broadens up your horizons." Well, ok if I want to do that I will, its a free country, but I don't feel like "broadening up my Horizons" by doing pointless english assignments, alot of math I study I never use when flying, and computer science stuff that goes WAY beyond broadening up your horizons. But because the airlines want a degree I'll stop complaining now.

Not that I have been out in the "real world" for a long time, but you should at least experience the "real world" before making those comments...I think you'll change your mind a little bit...IMHO
 
JDE said:
Not that I have been out in the "real world" for a long time, but you should at least experience the "real world" before making those comments...I think you'll change your mind a little bit...IMHO


Fair enough.....still don't see how a works cited page and Microsoft Access is gunna help me do a VOR approach....I know it's Nieve.

Another thing....learning those things are great....but they take it way too far. It's like they are trying to make you an English teacher, when I really just want the 3 credits and to move on. Maybe its just my school, but prob. not.
 
buffalopilot said:
I really think that being called with 515 TT really shows the importance of education in this business. I have 8 years of college which in a employers eyes means more than 300 more hours in a a Warrior etc.
with an MBA you think I can get a job with 300TT? LOL
 
iI think the airlines know that if a pilot can pass college (I went for medicine, not english by the way) then he/she more than likely will be able to pass training, and then be able to trouble shoot etc on the line. It is the way the industry judges good candidates now. Hours are hours when you start out in the industry ,what ELSE does the candidate offer to the company is what they care about.
 
buffalopilot said:
iI think the airlines know that if a pilot can pass college (I went for medicine, not english by the way) then he/she more than likely will be able to pass training, and then be able to trouble shoot etc on the line. It is the way the industry judges good candidates now. Hours are hours when you start out in the industry ,what ELSE does the candidate offer to the company is what they care about.
I have to ask, do you think you'll be happy flying at that sort of salary knowing you could make more in another industry?

that's what I see when an over-educated applicant walks in the door.
 
Philip said:
I have to ask, do you think you'll be happy flying at that sort of salary knowing you could make more in another industry?

that's what I see when an over-educated applicant walks in the door.

I have a buddy who at one point worked for a large telephone company. He has been in the United States for around 10 years, and was making somewhere between $80,000-$90,000/year, but quit his job because he hated it and went to flight school. He just interviewed and got hired on at Express Jet last week...making much much less as we all know. The only point I'm trying to make is just because someone may be over-educated doesn't mean they won't be happy doing what they love -or- following their dream. Money sure helps with happiness, but it's not everything (which was something else I was fortunate to learn at my young age ;))
 
buffalopilot said:
First of all, flying is my passion. What other industry are you talking about?
I'm sure with your degrees you can find something that pays at least 2 or three times what colgan does..
I think I'm going to forget flying professionally in favor of a living wage and buying my own airplane eventually.
 
supercell86 said:
money can't buy happiness....but either can poverty....how much does one love to fly?:)
work is work, but it's nice to drive home in a little nicer car to a house, instead of a crash pad.
 
Philip said:
work is work, but it's nice to drive home in a little nicer car to a house, instead of a crash pad.

If you can, try to have a side business.

Selling stuff on ebay comes in handy for me!
 
buffalopilot said:
Eventually flying pays off too right?

I think it's all about expectations. If you're expecting to live the high life at Colgan, think again. It's going to take a lot of years (or a lot of luck) to get your perfect job. The perfect job for me is probably different than the perfect job for you. The days of the $300,000/year, on 5 days a month are gone. If you get into the business thinking that's going to happen, you better get out now. BUT, if you get into the business because you love to fly and love the job, then its worth it! I love my job. I get to work with cool people and fly cool planes, and I wouldn't change anything, but keep in mind, it's still a job.
 
I dont expect to live high on the hog flying for any airline .All I want is to do what I love and make a decent living doing it. Flying pay starts low, but eventually does get into a decent range.
 
Van_Hoolio said:
JDE- Sounds like you know Javier. Cool guy.

Now you're gonna have to tell me how you know Javier! BTW, I'll be in DSM a couple times tomorrow assuming the runway conditions hold up for us, but we won't be there very long either time...just enough to pickup/drop pax and get gas.
 
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