Keep staying the course? Investing in volatile times

[woodreau]

One thing I was hoping was that keeping the stock market up would be one of his priorities. But now with the tariffs, it’s upended the assumptions the world has been running on for the last 80 years.

Since a lot of us and airlines are socking everything away into our 401ks.

The markets are going to be a wild ride.

Historically from 1929 to now the market has always trended upwards…. But I don’t know if the next 10-15 years I’d be able to recover what I’ve already put in the past 20 years.

Since I’m not really smart, I’ve only invested in total stock market index funds…. Betting on the markets to just keep going up over the long term.

But since the agenda is to dismantle the government, if there is no stock market left…. So now what?

More selfish close in…. If our economy tanks, well …. Me thinks people aren’t going to be flying much… it’ll take down the smaller carriers like mine and the ULCCs , I guess the big 4 will still be okay…. And Mesa, well it’s like the cockroach that will still be around after the nuclear weapons exchanges have turn the world into smoking ruins.

 

[MFT1Air]

I agree wholeheartedly. There are many things shaping up in our financial future that's most transparent to the MSM unless perhaps you watch Bloomberg or or financial media outlets. Social media platforms are full of useful information.

Crickets from MSM.

Trump signed that EO legalizing crypto and it went mostly unnoticed except by those in the know. Interesting. Calculated?

 

[drunkenbeagle]

I bought puts on the S&P at the worst of Covid. Stock market didn't crash, but I also didn't lose everything. Puts expired worthless, but I made 30x more than that on the securities that I didn't sell. Can be cheap insurance if you are worried. And you'll likely be able to write off the loss if you do it in a taxable account. (This isn't financial advice, just sharing my own past choices.)

 

[Inverted25]

One thing I was hoping was that keeping the stock market up would be one of his priorities. But now with the tariffs, it’s upended the assumptions the world has been running on for the last 80 years.

Since a lot of us and airlines are socking everything away into our 401ks.

The markets are going to be a wild ride.

Historically from 1929 to now the market has always trended upwards…. But I don’t know if the next 10-15 years I’d be able to recover what I’ve already put in the past 20 years.

Since I’m not really smart, I’ve only invested in total stock market index funds…. Betting on the markets to just keep going up over the long term.

But since the agenda is to dismantle the government, if there is no stock market left…. So now what?

More selfish close in…. If our economy tanks, well …. Me thinks people aren’t going to be flying much… it’ll take down the smaller carriers like mine and the ULCCs , I guess the big 4 will still be okay…. And Mesa, well it’s like the cockroach that will still be around after the nuclear weapons exchanges have turn the world into smoking ruins.

Stock market is not a function of the government. Even if it tanks it’s just the perfect opportunity to buy a ton at low cost and make your millions on the back side. If you’re truly worried then get out of the stock market and into things like gold for the short term. Lots of options. Better yet get a good financial advisor.


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[MFT1Air]

Stock market is not a function of the government. Even if it tanks it’s just the perfect opportunity to buy a ton at low cost and make your millions on the back side. If you’re truly worried then get out of the stock market and into things like gold for the short term. Lots of options. Better yet get a good financial advisor.


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You're going to see a global shift in how we look at the stock market once global "tokenization" and smart contracts enter our global economy. The derivatives market? Crypto? Shift in wealth? Global purchasing power parity? Coming soon.

 

[JaketheGoat]

You're not alone in thinking about how market volatility, tariffs, and economic shifts could impact both long-term investments and the airline industry.

What Can You and I Do?​

Diversify a bit more – Even if you're a total stock market index believer, adding bonds, international funds, or defensive sectors can reduce risk exposure.
Prepare for airline volatility – If you work in aviation, have a backup plan or side gig in case the industry contracts.
Watch for Fed & policy shifts – Interest rate cuts could offset some damage, but if inflation spikes, things could get dicey.

You're not crazy for worrying, but markets always go through cycles. If you’re playing the long game, history suggests patience is your best bet (even if it’s nerve-wracking). Thoughts on alternative hedges like real estate or commodities?