gne in prog
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june photo contest voting
- Thread starter gne in prog
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Pilotforhire587
Lycra Man
Awesome shots... I think it would be really cool to throw in a NO PHOTOSHOPING month or two, then its all about skillz
Bernoulli Fan
Controller
Agree.
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Adler
Guest
I like to think photoshopping takes skills
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Adler
Guest
how do we do that sarcasm line thing
N519AT
Ahh! This is how I change this!
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Adler
Guest
With a no Photoshop contest, would be allow cropping?
Pilotforhire587
Lycra Man
I say no to that too
rdsoxpilot
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KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
I don't know that I could agree with no photoshop at all. I think an airliners.net approach might be good. You can resize and do minor things, but nothing major.
rdsoxpilot
Well-Known Member
I'm all for the winner choosing. But Photoshopping doesn't take skills...it's a program designed to make your picture better. Leave it to angle/skillz.
If I have to add an example..its like fake boobies. Not real. 2 of the 3 photos here obviously have been shopped. It should be all about the photo & nothing else. Photoshopping ruins it my own in opinion....cropping is different though.
Bernoulli Fan
Controller
Judging by the voting, most people like Photoshopping.
gne in prog
Well-Known Member
i had something typed out, when adler quoted me before i deleted, though i didn't want my comments to be construed as referencing the pics in the contest. my rant is photography in general, not specific to the contest photos.
[rant]
photoshopping does take skill. it takes a lot of skill. it's an incredibly powerful program, very complex to master, and there isn't any denying it takes skill to be good at it. most photography in advertising happens on a computer, not in a studio or on a location. the people working in that sort of commercial setting have mad skills, but i'm not ranting about them. for recreational photography, i think the most important skill is knowing how to limit your editing.
most people never learn anything on their camera beyond exposure bracketing and auto. they rattle off 3 quick shots, slam them into photomatix or photoshop, and make a ebdr (eye bleeding dynamic ratio). now they think they're the next amsel adams, post them on their hdr flickr groups and they congratulate each other on how great their photography is, and how their shots look like "paintings".
or the dreaded selective color. daring artists mixing b+w with color. so moody and dramatic.
i don't think i'm all that or anything. in fact, most of my shots suck. about all of my p+s pics from the plane suck. but with the dslr, i try. i practice all the time, read books, try new to me techniques. attempt continuous improvement. when i first started shooting, 20 some years ago, photography was expensive, and there wasn't much you could do after you took the shot, unless you happened to own a darkroom. if you wanted results you would have to think about what you were doing. i think photoshop and similar programs have removed most of that from today's photography.
few people think about, or care about composition, or exposure, or how light behaves and can be manipulated. let the fine folks at adobe worry about that. most of the people looking at the photos are used to taking pictures with their phone. almost anything looks better than a phone pic, even with the latest gazillion megapixel iandroid whatever, phone. so when they see an image that has had the saturation and the contrast sliders jammed to the right, it looks impressive. to others it looks cheap and gimmicky.
[/rant]
cliffs- i hate over editing.
on topic- i don't really care whether we allow photoshopping or not. my main concern is when i post themes i don't have to rewrite the rules every month. i just want to copy and paste from the last month, replacing only the theme, the previous month's winner, and the dates. when it comes to starting threads i'm lazy, and wish there was a threadshop cs5.
[rant]
photoshopping does take skill. it takes a lot of skill. it's an incredibly powerful program, very complex to master, and there isn't any denying it takes skill to be good at it. most photography in advertising happens on a computer, not in a studio or on a location. the people working in that sort of commercial setting have mad skills, but i'm not ranting about them. for recreational photography, i think the most important skill is knowing how to limit your editing.
most people never learn anything on their camera beyond exposure bracketing and auto. they rattle off 3 quick shots, slam them into photomatix or photoshop, and make a ebdr (eye bleeding dynamic ratio). now they think they're the next amsel adams, post them on their hdr flickr groups and they congratulate each other on how great their photography is, and how their shots look like "paintings".
or the dreaded selective color. daring artists mixing b+w with color. so moody and dramatic.
i don't think i'm all that or anything. in fact, most of my shots suck. about all of my p+s pics from the plane suck. but with the dslr, i try. i practice all the time, read books, try new to me techniques. attempt continuous improvement. when i first started shooting, 20 some years ago, photography was expensive, and there wasn't much you could do after you took the shot, unless you happened to own a darkroom. if you wanted results you would have to think about what you were doing. i think photoshop and similar programs have removed most of that from today's photography.
few people think about, or care about composition, or exposure, or how light behaves and can be manipulated. let the fine folks at adobe worry about that. most of the people looking at the photos are used to taking pictures with their phone. almost anything looks better than a phone pic, even with the latest gazillion megapixel iandroid whatever, phone. so when they see an image that has had the saturation and the contrast sliders jammed to the right, it looks impressive. to others it looks cheap and gimmicky.
[/rant]
cliffs- i hate over editing.
on topic- i don't really care whether we allow photoshopping or not. my main concern is when i post themes i don't have to rewrite the rules every month. i just want to copy and paste from the last month, replacing only the theme, the previous month's winner, and the dates. when it comes to starting threads i'm lazy, and wish there was a threadshop cs5.