Jumpseat story

jynxyjoe

Queso King
A story of two jumpseating pilots.

Pilot A: One week ago, graced our jump seat, what a pleasure, quite honestly. Happy, grateful, and above all professional from top to bottom. We took a delay leaving Minne just to get as many nonrevvers and jumpseaters on as we could (slow gate agent). Anyone flying in the STL area can attest, last week was hell. Lots of windshear, lots of chop, crosswinds which make the stupid CRJ autopilot look stupid (I admit it doesn't take a lot). The jumpseater was kind to me considering the mess of the approach and took time before he left to really compliment the Captain on how he ran his ship and his great CRM work. He didn't have to do all that, couldn't say enough nice things to and about us. What a guy.

Pilot B: Horrible body language I could see through the cockpit window while he was at the gate. We kinda chuckled about "grumpy" and the captain said after a second, "well crap I hope he's not jumpseating because we don't have the oxygen." Honestly I didn't even look, we were shy by about 100psi. I said, "crap, let me check". I hoped out of the seat and just made the turn on the jetbridge when I saw the guy. He was just angry as I thought, and I have no idea about what. I asked him if they'd got him a seat in the back and he kinda snapped saying that he was planning to be up front. I told him about the oxygen situation and apologized as sincerely and politely as possible. I told him feel free to stop by the cockpit I'll run up to the gate agent and see what I could do. The Gate agent couldn't do anything, we were full in the back. The jumpseater wouldn't even say anything to the captain, he just stared him down and wouldn't even make contact with me as he left the cockpit and aircraft even while I apologized again. I sat in my seat and we continued finishing up, the clown sat up top and eyeballed the both of us the rest of the time. Talked to the flight attendant later and she said he wouldn't even talk to her. Captain also apologized and told him we were limited on our options because of the time left to departure and not having a MX base there. Firstly flight out of BNA, what could we do?

Obviously this is a story of both 5%'s. There's a 5% of a group who are just stellar, and a 5% who are nuts and jerks. The rest are just normal guys with varying levels of good and bad.

There's more of a story here. We have two pilots from the same company and apparently same base, both Captains. My other captain and I spoke 5 minutes about what a great guy pilot A was, and this captain today and I spent upwards of 30 minutes talking about Pilot B. The guy's face is burned in my brain. Isn't it amazing how easy it is to focus in on negativity? Maybe we expect too much of our fellow man, to be great people and don't give them enough thanks when they are.

Remember to focus more on the positive.
 
Haha excellent write up. Being a commuter myself its amazing to see how many people treat it so differently. I'm assuming do the the fact of the cities we serve we dont see an abundance of jumpseaters on our flights but when we do I couldnt tell you how many people neglect to even say hello and I'm not talking about the 10 year seniority free non revers. I'll never forget the day that there was TONS of snow coming down so we had to hold to let the vis get up to shoot the approach and wouldn't you know it a JS was checking in and as he was going to his seat he said something like... you better put the pedal to the metal so I can make my flight boys... Not that I was offended or anything just had a chuckle.

Now me personally I've been quite lucky with who serves my flights between MCI and CLE. I've even had captains that had the door shut a little early JUST about to push back and saw me in the window missing the flight. He instructed the gate agent to go up and get me. But the whole airline is really a pretty good group of men and women. Good luck to everyone out there.
 
Haha excellent write up. Being a commuter myself its amazing to see how many people treat it so differently. I'm assuming do the the fact of the cities we serve we dont see an abundance of jumpseaters on our flights but when we do I couldnt tell you how many people neglect to even say hello and I'm not talking about the 10 year seniority free non revers. I'll never forget the day that there was TONS of snow coming down so we had to hold to let the vis get up to shoot the approach and wouldn't you know it a JS was checking in and as he was going to his seat he said something like... you better put the pedal to the metal so I can make my flight boys... Not that I was offended or anything just had a chuckle.

Now me personally I've been quite lucky with who serves my flights between MCI and CLE. I've even had captains that had the door shut a little early JUST about to push back and saw me in the window missing the flight. He instructed the gate agent to go up and get me. But the whole airline is really a pretty good group of men and women. Good luck to everyone out there.

Yeah, 95% of guys I come across I could fly with all the time. It's that 5% that makes you bonkers and then you can't stop talking about them later.

Makes a story I suppose :).
 
"I've even had captains that had the door shut a little early JUST about to push back and saw me in the window missing the flight. He instructed the gate agent to go up and get me."

Wow. Now that's cool.
 
It's amazing how much more your experience in life is by just using common courtesy, respect and humility. I am always very grateful for a ride to wherever I might be headed, and have had many really good experiences... Best JS lately was on a Mesa CRJ-900 STL-CLT. Very professional crew, and had a great time once we were out of sterile talking about the 1900 days...
 
Just jumped on a FedEx MD10 back home after all the trips I had been planning on taking got too full, it was awesome! The captain and fo even helped carry my bags since I may or may not have brought more then the allotted "what carried by the OJS in one trip up a crew boarding stairs".
 
Just jumped on a FedEx MD10 back home after all the trips I had been planning on taking got too full, it was awesome! The captain and fo even helped carry my bags since I may or may not have brought more then the allotted "what carried by the OJS in one trip up a crew boarding stairs".

No Pictures?
 
No Pictures?

My camera is no more, and I can't justify spending 1/2 a month's paycheck on a DSLR.

Oh yea, and I read the pretty serious sounding thing from FedEx saying no pictures or videos are allowed.
 
"I've even had captains that had the door shut a little early JUST about to push back and saw me in the window missing the flight. He instructed the gate agent to go up and get me."

Wow. Now that's cool.

I remember a friend of mine telling me he was trying to catch the last flight out of EWR to his home city one night. It was an American MD-80 and the gate agent had just closed the door and was walking down the jetbridge and they were going to be at least 5-10 minutes early. He got his flashlight out and sharted blinking it from the terminal window towards the cockpit. They saw it, saw him and his bags, and sent the agent back up. He got on!
 
Great post... While its up, I just wanted to give props to an exceptional Delta crew out of BKK... The flight was full, but the captain personally came up and said, "if there are no seats, you get the bunk..." and he made sure the gate agent understood. Due to tail winds, the flight was shorter than planned and I was allowed the bunk on the 330, normally reserved for the flight attendants. I was truly impressed and have continued to pay it forward. Thanks again to that delta crew!
 
Good thread and posts!

I was jumpseating out of ATL last Thursday, and I think everyone was trying to escape ATL that day, because every single flight heading west was full, oversold or had jumpseaters.

When I got to the Frontier gate to list for the jump to DEN about 45 mins. before departure I was No. 5 for the jump, a 6th jumpseater showed up a few mins. after me. This was probably the worst I have seen in all my years commuting. Long story short, flight was packed and oversold. The CA was awesome and made sure he could get as many on as possible. I ended up riding the 2nd cockpit jump with a full load and a full FA jumpseat.

I try to check the gate area for jumpseaters everytime I work, especially cities where I know there are a lot of commuters.
 
I think it's the same from the passenger perspective. I still like to poke my head in the cockpit it time permits and I can get permission from the FA - some guys are really great, some act you just walked in on them wanking it.

It's also interesting talking with pilots about flying - or GA flying specifically. Some are really interested to hear about GA flying, others see you as some barnstorming fan boy.

It's at least better than the law - start talking about the law in any regard with an attorney and they will quickly snap back and let you know that you're not an attorney, and thus know nothing about the law. My wife does it to me all the time.
 
Leave no jumpseater behind! :)

Great story, commuting sucks bad enough might as well have fun embracing the suck. A little courtesy & professionalism goes a loooong way.
 
Just jumped on a FedEx MD10 back home after all the trips I had been planning on taking got too full, it was awesome! The captain and fo even helped carry my bags since I may or may not have brought more then the allotted "what carried by the OJS in one trip up a crew boarding stairs".

I try to bid my schedule around FedEx's schedule just to make my commute as painless as possible.
 
Well, Kell, you move out of MEM already?

I got displaced to JFK back in April. I'm commuting from MEM for now, but as soon as the finances line up and we find a house, we're moving back to MCO. Commute is 100 times easier than MEM (MEM-JFK only has 2-3 non-stops a day, all on FedEx) and I won't want to strangle 90% of the people that live around me. :)
 
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