blee256
Well-Known Member
good, i need a vacation!
Judge Rules NWA F/A's Can Strike
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good, i need a vacation!
TheShortOne
Well-Known Member
let's take bets - i'm flying to MHT next weekend on NWA and then over labor day to MSP (also on NWA) - I bet that at least one of those flights is going to get f'd up because of the CHAOS.
hm...guess that means i'll be writing a strongly worded email to NW management...
go fas
hm...guess that means i'll be writing a strongly worded email to NW management...
go fas
TheShortOne
Well-Known Member
indeed - especially with all the thousands standing around who don't know wtf is going on regarding the new security stuff.
Tokyo007
Well-Known Member
not sure if this has been posted before.. but I like the intro terminator music..
http://www.nwaafa.org/
http://www.nwaafa.org/
Mr_Creepy
Well-Known Member
Love the music but then I went to the website.
I don't know what has happened to me lately, but for some reason all of these strike and contract negotiation sites make the authors look like whiny crybabies.
There must be some way to state what is a worthy goal in a more professional manner.
CHAOS - Create Havoc Around Our System - yeah that's professional ...
"Stop Corporate Greed" - could be changed to "Satisfy Our Greed!" by a cynical person.
I suppose sticking to facts doesn't work anymore. "If it doesn't bleed, it doesn't lead" is the only true fact in media nowadays.
Sad. Truly.
I don't know what has happened to me lately, but for some reason all of these strike and contract negotiation sites make the authors look like whiny crybabies.
There must be some way to state what is a worthy goal in a more professional manner.
CHAOS - Create Havoc Around Our System - yeah that's professional ...
"Stop Corporate Greed" - could be changed to "Satisfy Our Greed!" by a cynical person.
I suppose sticking to facts doesn't work anymore. "If it doesn't bleed, it doesn't lead" is the only true fact in media nowadays.
Sad. Truly.
Mr_Creepy
Well-Known Member
Kell - you are confusing "deserves" with "earns."
Guys getting shot overseas deserve our respect, gratitude and eternal thanks, but they are not "earning" money in the same respect a CEO does.
I do call it right, because that is what free enterprise is based upon.
Besides, if you are a true socialist, then why do you care what a CEO makes as long as you have enough to pay your bills?
A true socialist doesn't care.
I think most of today's "socialists" are actually "wealth redistributionists" - they want to take the money from "the man" and "give it to them" - for selfish reasons as much as helping society.
Guys getting shot overseas deserve our respect, gratitude and eternal thanks, but they are not "earning" money in the same respect a CEO does.
I do call it right, because that is what free enterprise is based upon.
Besides, if you are a true socialist, then why do you care what a CEO makes as long as you have enough to pay your bills?
A true socialist doesn't care.
I think most of today's "socialists" are actually "wealth redistributionists" - they want to take the money from "the man" and "give it to them" - for selfish reasons as much as helping society.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I don't think CEO's earn their keep. These guys ruin businesses, put people out of the job and then are paid for it. You know what would happen if I went out and crashed three airplanes today? I'd get fired and I'd never get another job in aviation ever again. Heck, I'd be hard pressed to find another job PERIOD. A CEO on the other hand will just find another company to "run" and will continue to be paid millions of dollars for subpar work. In the real world (and not corporate fantasy land), if you don't produce results you get axed.
Pilot:
"Why did you leave your last job?"
"Well, I crashed three planes, in one day even! It was pretty crazy. They let me go after that."
"Uhm...ahh....we'll be in touch..."
CEO:
"Why did you leave your last job?"
"Well I ran one of the biggest corporations in the world into the ground, laying off thousands when in the end it didn't do any good."
"That's the kind of seasoned leadership that we're after here! You're hired!"
Pilot:
"Why did you leave your last job?"
"Well, I crashed three planes, in one day even! It was pretty crazy. They let me go after that."
"Uhm...ahh....we'll be in touch..."
CEO:
"Why did you leave your last job?"
"Well I ran one of the biggest corporations in the world into the ground, laying off thousands when in the end it didn't do any good."
"That's the kind of seasoned leadership that we're after here! You're hired!"
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Never said I was a socialist. Just night dyed in the wool capitalist, dollar dollar bill ya, gotta get mine like a lot of guys in the corporate world.
Let's take Disney for example. Their CEOs rake in the dough, yet their frontline employees still see poverty wages. Company makes a mint, CEOs get the bonuses. Nevermind the fact that without the guys pushing buttons or sweating in costumes, they wouldn't have jobs. Or, let's take a look at the airline industry. CEO runs a company into bankruptcy, then jumps with his golden parachute. Meanwhile, the guys working for a living get laid off and wind up in the unemployment line.
So, you're going to tell me that a guy can bankrupt a company, ruin lives and still earn two or three mill, and you're OKAY with this? What if JO had decided to ruin Mesa while you were there so he could jump with a parachute and buy a nice house full of motorcycles? Would you still be saying "Well, he earned it?"
Let's take Disney for example. Their CEOs rake in the dough, yet their frontline employees still see poverty wages. Company makes a mint, CEOs get the bonuses. Nevermind the fact that without the guys pushing buttons or sweating in costumes, they wouldn't have jobs. Or, let's take a look at the airline industry. CEO runs a company into bankruptcy, then jumps with his golden parachute. Meanwhile, the guys working for a living get laid off and wind up in the unemployment line.
So, you're going to tell me that a guy can bankrupt a company, ruin lives and still earn two or three mill, and you're OKAY with this? What if JO had decided to ruin Mesa while you were there so he could jump with a parachute and buy a nice house full of motorcycles? Would you still be saying "Well, he earned it?"
Mr_Creepy
Well-Known Member
I own three of them. Does that mean I screw people over three times a day?
LOL John I want to talk to you in 30 years
tonyw
Well-Known Member
What I'll never understand is why various companies just never get it. When you consider companies who make the Fortune's top 100 companies to work for outperform the S&P 500, if you're looking to goose shareholder returns, I think there's a clear message.
Treat your employees well, make them happy to go to work, and guess what happens. They treat the customers well, and people come back to them. Plus there is less turnover, which costs you money.
All you have to do is look at the airline that's been reporting profits forever and its labor/management relations versus those who have filed for Chapter 11 and the difference is clear.
Treat your employees well, make them happy to go to work, and guess what happens. They treat the customers well, and people come back to them. Plus there is less turnover, which costs you money.
All you have to do is look at the airline that's been reporting profits forever and its labor/management relations versus those who have filed for Chapter 11 and the difference is clear.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Not only would I agree with JH that you have sold out but I would seriously question your christian faith if you can rationalize and excuse corporate greed,bankruptcy profiteering and everything else that these CEO's in corporate america are doing to labor.