JetBlue Window?

PhilosopherPilot said:
It's not about qualifications (beyond the competitive mins). Like the rest of the world, it's about who you know, and how well you network.
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Not every place. My strongest recs by far are at AA, and they place zero weight on your recs until after you get an interview. Same with US Air from what I understand.
 
Derg said:
I think if I told my dad that I applied, electronically, to a company which I wanted to work for and stopped there, he'd punch me in the gut.

And rightfully so.
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Same with my dad. When I got out of the AF, my dad's answer for just about every corp in the area was "put on some nice clothes, go over there, and introduce yourself." I realized, after a while, that that was just as important as knowing about the company. Going there was part of getting to know the company.

Doing that doesn't immediately lead to "OMG- WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A (job title)!" But I learned about the dos and don'ts of 1st impressions. It also eventually landed me a job cleaning 2 corporate aircraft, which led to some right seat time, which led to familiarity with King Airs, which led to my butt being saved in my first airline sim school in a Beech 1900. I had failed out of 135 transition training in September and by January, I was back in the game. The familiarity with that family of airplanes helped tremendously. I tell that story all the time, probably because of the impact it had on my career. It's amazing how little things lead to big things and a lot of these little things came from seemingly little tidbits of advice. Looking back, the reason these little things were passed on was because they are little important things that bind us together in aviation. Yeah, sure- the new guy gets a chance on little to no merit or familiarity once in a while, but almost everybody prefers a known quantity, be it for scenarios like a stained carpet discovered on a Citation at midnight or a severe turbulence encounter on the last leg of a long day. We all want our co-workers to react at least predictably. That's why newbs sometimes need to just be around for what seems to be very awkward, self propelled reasons. It's not only making those first, very important impressions. It's building a relationship, a trust.
 
SeanD said:
Nepotism or well connected into the network maybe. Does JetBlue even hire many folks without some sort of internal recommendation?
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I applied to jetBlue the day after my interview at another carrier which did not go well (I thought), January 7th 2014. They invited me for an interview on Feb 18th.

  • I had no internal recs
  • 121 CA but not in the training dept
  • It was the first time I had applied there

Honestly I think it's more about luck than anything else...
 
CRJDriver said:
I was told by a recruiter in April that 5000TT, 1000TPIC is currently the competitive range, but I know people with not even close to those times getting calls for interviews. Was told next application window will open in July, and that the competitive range could be adjusted again. It was also mentioned to me that there have been issues in training with some new-hires, but no specifics on that. Rumor mill says some previous 135 and military guys have trouble.
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@WAI this spring it was 5000TT and 1000Jet, no TPIC requirement
 
I went to the Veteran's Expo in Orlando a few months ago. I also have an internal rec from a pilot buddy. I have not heard anything from them, but I figure nothing is better than a TBNT letter.

I have the letter of rec from buddy as a supporting document with my profile. Is that the right place for it?
 
CRJDriver said:
Does the chief pilot office accept resumes/LORs from current pilots?
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Nope.

From what I have been told through the CP's office (other than the administration of the Blue Dart program - and that's just more of a distribution role) they have been completely shut out of the hiring process and that it's all up to the Talent folks and the People Department. There is an internal committee that has been tasked with finding and grading the candidates - We have a bunch of crazy acronyms, but it's a special group of people that have been tasked to find the candidates, select them, and then grade them through the interview. (From what I understand.)

It is frusturating because when you know so many great people that would fit great at the airline - there is nothing you can do. I told my boss that I really could use about 20 Blue Darts, and that would just be a start.

The LOR's come into play once you have the interview and you are being selected to continue or given the down check.

I had two friends interview recently, both got the thumbs down. I wrote glowing LOR's for both. I am baffled why they weren't hired.

I knew no one when I started here - and for the life of me I cannot figure out exactly what they are looking for except for people to be themselves and have a strong desire to help others. (Customer Service 'philosophy') It's a great place to work.

I haven't heard any rumors about the window opening, but it would make sense. Lots of slots to fill before the end of the year and into next year. And rumors have it that the current 'pool' of applicants/interviewees/etc. is drying up so that usually means a flush of the system and re-opening the window.
 
AirHun said:
I went to the Veteran's Expo in Orlando a few months ago. I also have an internal rec from a pilot buddy. I have not heard anything from them, but I figure nothing is better than a TBNT letter.

I have the letter of rec from buddy as a supporting document with my profile. Is that the right place for it?
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Yep. You will also bring in a hard copy (I believe) when you are interviewed.
 
ClearedForOption said:
Nope.

From what I have been told through the CP's office (other than the administration of the Blue Dart program - and that's just more of a distribution role) they have been completely shut out of the hiring process and that it's all up to the Talent folks and the People Department. There is an internal committee that has been tasked with finding and grading the candidates - We have a bunch of crazy acronyms, but it's a special group of people that have been tasked to find the candidates, select them, and then grade them through the interview. (From what I understand.)

It is frusturating because when you know so many great people that would fit great at the airline - there is nothing you can do. I told my boss that I really could use about 20 Blue Darts, and that would just be a start.

The LOR's come into play once you have the interview and you are being selected to continue or given the down check.

I had two friends interview recently, both got the thumbs down. I wrote glowing LOR's for both. I am baffled why they weren't hired.

I knew no one when I started here - and for the life of me I cannot figure out exactly what they are looking for except for people to be themselves and have a strong desire to help others. (Customer Service 'philosophy') It's a great place to work.

I haven't heard any rumors about the window opening, but it would make sense. Lots of slots to fill before the end of the year and into next year. And rumors have it that the current 'pool' of applicants/interviewees/etc. is drying up so that usually means a flush of the system and re-opening the window.
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I wrote two recs recently. One got a class, and one didn't. The one who got the thumbs down was one of the best guys I know in terms of culture fit. I'm out of the recommendation business for a while.
 
I think the "academics" are invading HR everywhere.

What used to take a visit to the office is not some weird metric HR machine that I don't even think anyone understands what it's doing.

It ain't just JBLU.
 
Derg said:
I think the "academics" are invading HR everywhere.

What used to take a visit to the office is not some weird metric HR machine that I don't even think anyone understands what it's doing.

It ain't just JBLU.
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Amen brotha'! I wish I could help out and recommend every good guy/gal I know but HR at most places(not just the airlines) have some crock bull crap method of finding the right candidate. AA guy in our jumpseat today can't get his squadron buds a call for interview.
 
I've had the opposite luck, so maybe I'm the golden touch. Everyone I've written a LOR for (with the exception of one) has gotten a call and a class date. The one that didn't get a call for an interview starts at US Airways next month.....
 
kellwolf said:
I've had the opposite luck, so maybe I'm the golden touch. Everyone I've written a LOR for (with the exception of one) has gotten a call and a class date. The one that didn't get a call for an interview starts at US Airways next month.....
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Great! Ill take one, bc if I don't get called by JB then I will at least get an interview with Airways lol! :biggrin:
 
Soul Brotha' said:
Amen brotha'! I wish I could help out and recommend every good guy/gal I know but HR at most places(not just the airlines) have some crock bull crap method of finding the right candidate. AA guy in our jumpseat today can't get his squadron buds a call for interview.
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Isnt it some sort of keyword/phrase finding software bot?
 
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