shooter13
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I could care less what you call it. I call it the War of Northern Agression. You can call it Bob if you want to.
Was it something prohibited by the constitution? The argument made by the secessionists of the day was that the states were sovereign to the federal government. That the federal government derived its authority from the people that were governed and that authority could be removed whenever the government overstepped its bounds. Very similar to what the writers of the Declaration of Independence wrote.
I was not aware that the south was attempting to destroy the federal government. Do you mean the federal government perceived its own destruction? Who invaded whom? And I don't call it a civil war because it did involve two separate nations. The war was not a simple uprising that had to be put down. A section of our country declared independence from the rest of it. Formed a new government, attacked and forced the troops the surrender of Ft Sumter, and then was invaded and beaten. It was a foreign country. The United States and the Confederate States. Two separate countries. Had the revolutionary war failed would we have claimed that the Declaration of Independence never existed??? I would hope not but if the "civil war" experience is any indicator, we would probably live in a country where 85% of the population thinks King George was a hero and Sam Adam's and Jefferson were traitors.
You list slavery as one indirect reason for the war and you are right but there were also many other reasons for secession.
I agree we need a federal government. I am not opposed to a strong one so long as it sticks to what it is supposed to. I have mixed feelings about privatization of the park system. I am certainly in favor of selling (at bargain basement prices) the parks to the states in which they reside. I don't think there is any reason why we need a federal park system. It isn't something that requires management across state lines (although I guess some of the parks do cross state lines and would have to be coordinated between the states) please don't read that to think I am opposed to parks. I love a good park. South Carolina and Charleston in particular have some of the best parks I have ever seen and I wouldn't want to go without them.
I took the wheels off my trailer to use as collateral for that fancy new tatoo I got. Only 3 more payments to go! God bless Jeff Foxworthy, Dale Earnheart??? and viva la confederacy!
Was it something prohibited by the constitution? The argument made by the secessionists of the day was that the states were sovereign to the federal government. That the federal government derived its authority from the people that were governed and that authority could be removed whenever the government overstepped its bounds. Very similar to what the writers of the Declaration of Independence wrote.
I was not aware that the south was attempting to destroy the federal government. Do you mean the federal government perceived its own destruction? Who invaded whom? And I don't call it a civil war because it did involve two separate nations. The war was not a simple uprising that had to be put down. A section of our country declared independence from the rest of it. Formed a new government, attacked and forced the troops the surrender of Ft Sumter, and then was invaded and beaten. It was a foreign country. The United States and the Confederate States. Two separate countries. Had the revolutionary war failed would we have claimed that the Declaration of Independence never existed??? I would hope not but if the "civil war" experience is any indicator, we would probably live in a country where 85% of the population thinks King George was a hero and Sam Adam's and Jefferson were traitors.
You list slavery as one indirect reason for the war and you are right but there were also many other reasons for secession.
I agree we need a federal government. I am not opposed to a strong one so long as it sticks to what it is supposed to. I have mixed feelings about privatization of the park system. I am certainly in favor of selling (at bargain basement prices) the parks to the states in which they reside. I don't think there is any reason why we need a federal park system. It isn't something that requires management across state lines (although I guess some of the parks do cross state lines and would have to be coordinated between the states) please don't read that to think I am opposed to parks. I love a good park. South Carolina and Charleston in particular have some of the best parks I have ever seen and I wouldn't want to go without them.
I took the wheels off my trailer to use as collateral for that fancy new tatoo I got. Only 3 more payments to go! God bless Jeff Foxworthy, Dale Earnheart??? and viva la confederacy!
