Jetblue seems to be making routine Fuel stops on transcontinental

n77j said:
I see your points there Tim and Frog- I have been seeing that pattern to myself with the jetstreams. Nonetheless, various airlines operating transcontinental with B737/738 such as Continental and Alasaka seems to be operating normally. The problem here in my opinion is that their A320 seems to be having a hard time accompolishing the transcontinetal flight without an interuption. I just feel that it might not help their reputation by making frequent stops every week. Nothing against Jetblue- i love to see them succeed but little things like that can affect their future-
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Yea there has been lots of press about it.
 
tonyw said:
Hey, I'll be seeing some of Boeing's marketing folks soon -- should they cut you a check, Doug?

No, no, that's Taylor. Yeah, T-A-Y-L-O-R. Uh huh.
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Scottsdale, AZ 85267

Should I have my agent call? :)
 
i dont know what the heck the little white plastic thing is. i just assumed it was what makes guinness taste really bad unless i'm hammered.

keystoneeeeeee!
 
The white thing in the bottom of the draught cans is a nitrogen dohickey to make a head in the beer when it is poured. Yea...I just did the Guinness tour less than a week ago...and had a few good pints while over there.

Guinness is a real beer, that american stuff is not. That is also why I love europe so much....good beer.
 
I think the other airlines making it without fuel stops are doing so because of preflight planning. Taking different routes up over Canada rather than down through the US straight into the jetstream. We had a CAL jumpseater who has flown the B737 transcon and he said every time he's been routed over Canada out of EWR. Most of JetBlue's aircraft have taken a lower route.

Does JetBlue have a dispatch center?

Oh, and Guinness rules.
 
When I rattle off some of the beers that I like, people in the states look at me not knowing any of the ones that I said. Then I will say Guinness and they will almost puke on my shoes.

Then they ask about Bud light and Miller light, and I am about ready to punch them. 90% of american beers are a waste of barley, hopps, and yeast.
 
that sounds kind of strange to me, i work for united and we get a lot of our trans con flights are either the a320 or a 319. we have full loads of a319 going from sfo-atl, sfo-bwi, and these go out pretty full, how is it that a 319 can go from sfo to atl or bwi, but a jetblue a320 cant make it to ny from long beach?
 
Diamnd15 said:
that sounds kind of strange to me, i work for united and we get a lot of our trans con flights are either the a320 or a 319. we have full loads of a319 going from sfo-atl, sfo-bwi, and these go out pretty full, how is it that a 319 can go from sfo to atl or bwi, but a jetblue a320 cant make it to ny from long beach?
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Because the jetstream blows eastbound..and those are eastbound flights. So you will have a very good tailwind vs. westbound flights with a strong headwind!
 
I have a good friend who is a JBLU captain -- asked him about this a few days ago and he just shook his head. Basically "s*** happens", what are you gonna do, can't control the weather, but yeah, we make it up eastbound. Still, an "unscheduled" stop raises hell with the pax, not to mention the schedules.

Personally, I have to wonder if the "bus" is the right airplane for these routes,even though I find it to be a more comfortable ride for the passengers. (Well, me at least). Checking "FlightAware" ther are currently five flights scheduled for an SLC stop today.

Reminds me of a flight many moons ago when Western Airlines was operating JFK-SLC flights. They had three a day at the time, two were DC-10's but the mid-day trip was a 737-300. Naturally the 737 was the one I was on. The captain said there would be strong headwinds and that he was planning five hours fifty minutes en-route. We took off. Six hours ten minutes later we landed in Casper, Wyoming for fuel. Still another hour plus to go!

The monotony was reduced however, by the fact that I was in first class and seated next to the actress Glenn Close. She was on her way to Jackson Hole. We spent the hours engaged in splendid conversation.
 
Most American beers are rice-based actually. Something to do with most of the grain products during the 1940's going to support the war effort so brewers shifted to rice in the meantime. The average American, who through no fault of his own, developed a taste for that variety and voila.
 
According to you statement your flights are leaving SFO going east. JBLue is leaving JFK coming west. The winds going east are always an asset but a pain going west.
 
well then same situation we have inbound flight from bwi, atl, mia, a lot of east coast airports with the use of our a319 and a320s...and they dont really have light loads either
 
Tim said:
According to you statement your flights are leaving SFO going east. JBLue is leaving JFK coming west. The winds going east are always an asset but a pain going west.
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i think tim tim is a genius

BRILLIANT!
 
Diamnd15 said:
that sounds kind of strange to me, i work for united and we get a lot of our trans con flights are either the a320 or a 319. we have full loads of a319 going from sfo-atl, sfo-bwi, and these go out pretty full, how is it that a 319 can go from sfo to atl or bwi, but a jetblue a320 cant make it to ny from long beach?
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I believe you'll find the 319 has more range with a full load than the 320. Same as the 737-800 has more range than the -900.

BTW, Jetblue's CEO has solved the oil shortage and fuel crisis for the industry. Well, soon...

http://www.columbiajournalist.org/deadline/2005/article.asp?subj=business&course=deadline&id=803
 
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