Jetblue seems to be making routine Fuel stops on transcontinental

n77j

n77j

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Does anybody know why Jetblue seems to be making quiet a few stops for fuel on the transcontinental flights? Is it weight restrictions? A320 can't seem to make it? what's going on? The last few weeks, i have been seeing their planes making a stop at KSLC for fuel on their way to KSJC/KSMF or KOAK from the east coast.
 
IMO- it's ok to do it once in a great while but when it becomes routine, not a good thing at all. Frequent flyers are not going to be a fan of tech stops and beside, it ruins the reputations of the airline.
 
During the winter though the jetstreams dips way down and you can get some really good winds out of Canada. Its great if coming east though...
 
this was in the times a few weeks ago. unusual headwinds on westbound routes. it hink they said they were up near 190 as opposed to 110ish in years past. i just skimmed it. they are stoping on the way there but htey make up the time on the turn so they dont worry much
 
I see your points there Tim and Frog- I have been seeing that pattern to myself with the jetstreams. Nonetheless, various airlines operating transcontinental with B737/738 such as Continental and Alasaka seems to be operating normally. The problem here in my opinion is that their A320 seems to be having a hard time accompolishing the transcontinetal flight without an interuption. I just feel that it might not help their reputation by making frequent stops every week. Nothing against Jetblue- i love to see them succeed but little things like that can affect their future-
 
n77j said:
I see your points there Tim and Frog- I have been seeing that pattern to myself with the jetstreams. Nonetheless, various airlines operating transcontinental with B737/738 such as Continental and Alasaka seems to be operating normally. The problem here in my opinion is that their A320 seems to be having a hard time accompolishing the transcontinetal flight without an interuption. I just feel that it might not help their reputation by making frequent stops every week. Nothing against Jetblue- i love to see them succeed but little things like that can affect their future-
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I'm no Boeing cheerleader but I have read many unchallenged claims that the B737NG's can fly higher,farther and faster and more profitable then competing A320's. Probably something about the 737NG jazzed up new wing! That might have some sort of factor in grand scheme..maybe!
 
n77j said:
Does anybody know why Jetblue seems to be making quiet a few stops for fuel on the transcontinental flights? Is it weight restrictions? A320 can't seem to make it? what's going on? The last few weeks, i have been seeing their planes making a stop at KSLC for fuel on their way to KSJC/KSMF or KOAK from the east coast.
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Yep, that has been going on for quite some time, Jetblue had taken the complaint to Airbus.

That is why on some of Jetblue's A320's, Airbus installed a center fuel tank, but, the extra fuel onboard, was negated by the extra weight..

Now, Jetblue is testing 2 versions of improved winglets for the A320...
 
mpenguin1 said:
Yep, that has been going on for quite some time, Jetblue had taken the complaint to Airbus.

That is why on some of Jetblue's A320's, Airbus installed a center fuel tank, but, the extra fuel onboard, was negated by the extra weight..

Now, Jetblue is testing 2 versions of improved winglets for the A320...
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I see- talk about a good scenario to make an ad for Boeing-
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
I'm no Boeing cheerleader but I have read many unchallenged claims that the B737NG's can fly higher,farther and faster and more profitable then competing A320's. Probably something about the 737NG jazzed up new wing! That might have some sort of factor in grand scheme..maybe!
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Never flew the A320, but did the 737NG. I had been told that the A320 was not a spectacular performer. Makes sense given the larger circumference fuselage while using the same engines as the 737. Having said that, transcon in the 800 would be a challenge westbound with a full load of people. So I'm not surprised the A320 is needing to stop with winter type winds. Also, this is probably an indicator that they are consistently running full loads.
 
n77j said:
I see- talk about a good scenario to make an ad for Boeing-
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No doubt. Imagine a picture of an Airbus making a fuel stop with a contrail overhead. The caption reads "JFK to LAX", the ballnote pointing to the airbus on the ramp says 'A-320 makes a fuel stop', and then ballnote pointing to the contrail far overhead says "Boeing 737, 39,000 ft, seat 14B makes a pit stop"
 
hell it tastes like it. theres this little white cube in the bottom. i cant stand the beer.. it has a mocha frap kind of taste to it? maybe its just uber dark


i'll stick with shiner!!!
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The planes are making tech stops due to headwinds and picking up more fuel. I work in Long Beach and for the past 3 weeks or so (2 weeks ago being the worst) a lot of our trans-con flights have had to make stops. The past few days, however, we've had some scheduled but the planes didn't end up having to stop.

It all has to do with weight restrictions. When you fill a plane full with 156 New Yorkers, each with big carry-ons, and a final bag count near pushing 225, there's only so much fuel you can bring (or bags, which is sometimes the case - either way we get a lot of angry people for having to stop [would they rather crash and die?] or when their bags come in on the next flight).
 
mpenguin1 said:
Yep, that has been going on for quite some time, Jetblue had taken the complaint to Airbus.

That is why on some of Jetblue's A320's, Airbus installed a center fuel tank, but, the extra fuel onboard, was negated by the extra weight..

Now, Jetblue is testing 2 versions of improved winglets for the A320...
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Sorry - I missed this post.

I believe they have already decided on the winglet design they plan to use and bought (or own? /shrug) the company who is manufacturing them. Something along those lines.
 
frog_flyer said:
hell it tastes like it. theres this little white cube in the bottom.
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Are you talking about bottles or cans, or what? The white thing you're talking about is probably the nitrogen draught dohickey. I've never seen a Guiness with a hunk of chocolate in it.[/hijack]
 
Doug Taylor said:
No doubt. Imagine a picture of an Airbus making a fuel stop with a contrail overhead. The caption reads "JFK to LAX", the ballnote pointing to the airbus on the ramp says 'A-320 makes a fuel stop', and then ballnote pointing to the contrail far overhead says "Boeing 737, 39,000 ft, seat 14B makes a pit stop"
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Hey, I'll be seeing some of Boeing's marketing folks soon -- should they cut you a check, Doug?

No, no, that's Taylor. Yeah, T-A-Y-L-O-R. Uh huh.
 
tonyw said:
Hey, I'll be seeing some of Boeing's marketing folks soon -- should they cut you a check, Doug?

No, no, that's Taylor. Yeah, T-A-Y-L-O-R. Uh huh.
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Taylor, Dough Taylor. Shaken not stirred.
 
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