Jet Blue blames WX, pilot rest rules for system meltdown

[Nick]

Awwwwww, what a cute kitty!

http://iwastesomuchtime.com/on/?i=86931

 

[🦈💜]

We are labor, but we are all part of the company, and collectively responsible for its success. I do not believe in the mgmt vs labor divide.

That's unfortunate, because management does.

We all should be rowing in the same direction.

Management doesn't row, and they see rowers as disposable cogs, to be fed as little as possible and replaced at any sign of weakness. You are not equals, in their eyes.

Hell, this whole argument really breaks down into the old "Theory X" / "Theory Y" saw.

-Fox

 

[Screaming_Emu]

That's unfortunate, because management does.



Management doesn't row, and they see rowers as disposable cogs, to be fed as little as possible and replaced at any sign of weakness. You are not equals, in their eyes.

Hell, this whole argument really breaks down into the old "Theory X" / "Theory Y" saw.

-Fox

What the fox said.

 

[🦈💜]

Hire good people and take care of them and they will take care of you. 99% will only call in sick when they are sick. It really isn't that hard.

<3

 

[🦈💜]

What the fox said.

Is this gonna continue? ;p

-Fox

 

[Screaming_Emu]

Is this gonna continue? ;p

-Fox

Forever.

 

[Seggy]

My argument has been with Seggy that his position is indefensible, as most absolute arguments are.

So Mr. High Horse.....you made an absolute argument in this thread....

http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/the-expressjet-stretch.193891/page-2#post-2238186

Shall you explain yourself?

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

So Mr. High Horse.....you made an absolute argument in this thread....

http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/the-expressjet-stretch.193891/page-2#post-2238186

Shall you explain yourself?

There's a difference in hyperbole and actually believing in the black/white absolute. Some dork will stretch. Some may do it just to be stupid.

 

[SpiceWeasel]

Can someone explain JB sick time? Seems like the APC page differentiates PTO vs sick.

Looks like at JetBlue you get one trip covered about every 3 months for a sick call (0-5) up to a max of a trip every two months.

 

[kellwolf]

Can someone explain JB sick time? Seems like the APC page differentiates PTO vs sick.

Looks like at JetBlue you get one trip covered about every 3 months for a sick call (0-5) up to a max of a trip every two months.

Sick/Vacation is all in one bank: PTO (Paid Time Off). For your first several years, it accrues at 9 hours a month. If you call in sick, it comes out of your PTO bank. If you bid vacation, it comes out of your PTO bank. If you drop a trip and want to get paid, it comes out of your PTO bank. You do have the option of taking sick days and dropped trips unpaid. Why the hell would anyone do that? Because after you get to 100 hours in the PTO bank, you can sell it back at 150%. At this point, I generally don't use PTO for sick calls. I can get more $$$ if I call in sick unpaid then cash out the PTO at 150%. If I just want the same amount of $$$ that I would have gotten for the trip, it takes fewer hours out of the bank that way.

It also depends on what the credit for the trip is. If it's a high productivity 4 day, you'll lose more out of your PTO bank than you would for a rigged 4 day.

FYI, I'm dead last in seniority and was able to get the weekend I needed in March off thanks to multiple schedule adjustment windows, PTO and automated systems. No need to have to call in sick, BUT we had reserve coverage on those days, so it approved it. After the second window, it's on a first come, first serve basis, so seniority doesn't play into it. Now, if someone senior to me wanted that Saturday off, unless someone picks up that open trip that day, it'll get denied since we're at min reserve coverage that day. The question is, will they try to ditch it on the trade board, just call in sick to get the schedule they want or fly their schedule.....