Jet Airways crew forgets to pressurize...

[Brn N Rubr]

If the crew didnt reestablish bleeds after takeoff, either from doing a bleeds off takeoff or from just never checking them post-start, wouldnt the APU bleed still be on? At least for me, i dont shut down the APU itself until after takeoff, so there would always be a bleed source of some kind going at all times.

In our 737, we shut the APU down prior to taxi. That is, unless we’re planning a bleeds off take-off.

And in response to you other comment about checking the pressurization panel, we do that with the after take-offs usually below 3,000’...makes a whole lot of sense, right?

 

[Richman]

Watched a very tired and worn down YV crew climb out of ORD one hot afternoon from the jump trying to figure out why they weren't pressurizing. Pointed to the bleeds and they had their 'doh' moment. APU didn't work and when we got to IND their ground crew wouldn't hook up air for them. Captain rightfully said "screw this" and took his crew for an ice cream break.

It amazes me what crews put up with sometimes. A weak captain who wants to “be friends” with everyone but the crew can be a real slice of hell to fly with.

 

[Deleted member 27505]

Whatever your brand of gauge or knob, I just kinda sorta assumed generic after-take-off and 10K checks would strongly militate agianst this sort of thing. Even if you botched both of those, a generic transition check could still prevent the ignominy allowing horns to bellow. Guess sometimes folks have reeeeeal bad days.

 

[A150K]

I forgot to turn the packs on after start once. Thankfully my airplane is smarter than me.

"I thought it seemed pretty quiet."

I blasted off in a King Air with the bleeds closed after it had come out of mx one day. Caught it right after takeoff when my ears were popping and when I got to the checking pressurization part of my climb flow ..."hey, why's this pos not pressurizing???? Oh...oops....hey, Nurse Nancy and Medic Mike, watch your ears real quick (no pt on board)."

 

[knot4u]

I blasted off in a King Air with the bleeds closed after it had come out of mx one day. Caught it right after takeoff when my ears were popping and when I got to the checking pressurization part of my climb flow ..."hey, why's this pos not pressurizing???? Oh...oops....hey, Nurse Nancy and Medic Mike, watch your ears real quick (no pt on board)."

This is a recurring issue anytime an airplane comes in for MX. We always try to release the airplane with no switchology issues. There are mechanics that'll finish whatever work they've done with the switches left however they were after the functional check per the AMM. And you can't blame them when you jump in and everything is all jacked up. We have checklists, you have checklists. It's gotten to the point that I take pictures of panels before I do anything. Some pilots have odd theories that they believe in and insist that some switches must be configured in a certain manner or some sort of bad juju will happen when the devil in the engines is unleashed, wouldn't be an issue if they would just actually follow a checklist.

 

[Old Boeing Driver]

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[ComplexHiAv8r]

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[Springer]

Airbus doesn't do this...

just saying

Sometime it does, well sort of. Dispatched out of SAN with one pack inop. Did a packs off T/O due to weight and could not get the good pack to come on line. No pack no pressurization. Diverted to LAX and did an overweight landing. The sad part was the inop pack worked but could not legally use it. What a goat-rope.

 

[Nark]

Sometime it does, well sort of. Dispatched out of SAN with one pack inop. Did a packs off T/O due to weight and could not get the good pack to come on line. No pack no pressurization. Diverted to LAX and did an overweight landing. The sad part was the inop pack worked but could not legally use it. What a goat-rope.

I’d hate to say, but sounds like Airbus. I can’t tell you how many times it does a weird thing, I write it up. Magically it fixes itself on the ground and MX is like, okay dude you called me out here for nothing?!?!?