Istanbul-Atatürk International Airport, Turkey - 13 May 2018

[trafficinsight]

I guess the tail is of the breakaway variety.


Heck the Crj tail stayed on when the a380 had a whack at it.

You can't compare the two.

Is it composite like the A300 one we all heard so much about?

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No, I'm talking mass. The weight alone won't let it spin around like a CRJ.

It did move a bit until the tail broke. The comment was about a "breakaway tail" metal and composite react very differently to overstress. So I was curious about it.

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[trafficinsight]

Wonder how they fix that?

Does the entire aft section need to be replaced of can you simply mount a new vertical piece?

I saw a similar repair to a smaller airframe...they jigged the whole aft fuselage and torqued the fuselage back into alignment.

Something this size? Bet they (Airbus) cut the fuselage off at the rear pressure bulkhead and replace it.

Then every crew that flies it gets to wonder if Airbus does a better job at bulkhead repairs than Boeing.

I wonder....

So there are a few tails in the helicopter fleet that have been hit with an RPG or similar system in the tail. 60s especially. Manufacturer does a repair from a bulkhead back and puts it back in rotation. Whether or not that aircraft flies better or worse is pretty much tail to tail dependent. I know there is an AF 60G that’s been hit twice in nearly the same spot. Apparently it flew better after the first one and worse after the second.


I wonder if this plane is gonna be somewhere in the future with an FO frantically trying and a Cpt mad as hell that he/she can’t keep it in trim to save their lives.


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It's an Airbus, they don't know what trim is [emoji14]

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[PeanuckleCRJ]

It's an Airbus, they don't know what trim is [emoji14]

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This is quite true with rudder trim except for engine out. I start trimming on my usual hand fly up to 18ish and have gotten comments of "wow I've never seen anyone trim her before." No auto rudder trim with the A/P off, boys and girls. You let her be crooked, she will be that.

 

[jhugz]

We got re-routed from the cargo/aux ramp through the alley one time on the whale. We asked twice to make sure we had the wing clearance to get through because it looked close. That was with every airplane pulled up to where it should be. Have no idea what the FO or the CAPT was doing here. Both should of seen that it wouldn't work. The ground control in IST is pretty bad too. They'll get you into a bad spot if you let them. The really don't have an idea of what's going on, on the ramp.

 

[BobDDuck]

This is quite true with rudder trim except for engine out. I start trimming on my usual hand fly up to 18ish and have gotten comments of "wow I've never seen anyone trim her before." No auto rudder trim with the A/P off, boys and girls. You let her be crooked, she will be that.

Really? On both the little and big bus here, SOP is to grab the trim knob and crank it for about 15 seconds as soon as you get the nose in the air. I never trimmed out single engine in the CRJ and it took 3 cycles of CQ on the 717 to get me to use the trim there. But le bus? Ironically (for a mostly non trimmable airplane) I started right off with the trim for V1 cuts.

 

[Skåning]

It basically happened like this:

 

[Baronman]

Really? On both the little and big bus here, SOP is to grab the trim knob and crank it for about 15 seconds as soon as you get the nose in the air. I never trimmed out single engine in the CRJ and it took 3 cycles of CQ on the 717 to get me to use the trim there. But le bus? Ironically (for a mostly non trimmable airplane) I started right off with the trim for V1 cuts.

I think he’s saying most people don’t trim during a normal 2 engine-hand flown climb.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I think he’s saying most people don’t trim during a normal 2 engine-hand flown climb.

Bingo! Thanks for the translation, haha