Issues With The Super-awesome New Body Scanners?

ChasenSFO

ChasenSFO

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I hear the TSA has changed the imaging on body scanners. In SFO, they thought my friend had stuff in his pocket, he didn't, then they search him for explosives, and he tests positive despite just waking up and driving to the airport. This earned him a strip search despite being an employee. Then on the way back from LAX, they accuse me of having stuff strapped to my leg, pull me aside, and feel my entire leg up. Is this thing totally inaccurate or what? Never been suspected of having anything before, then twice in one day someone in my party gets accused. Also saw a lady get accused of having something on her hip, which she didn't. Whats the deal with this stupid thing?
 
Oh crap, reading comprehension fail on my behalf. I thought it was you! My bad. (insert excuse here)
 
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I don't and won't go through them if at all possible, backscatter, rapiscan, whatever. The only place so far where there didn't seem to be a choice was AMS (even in uniform). Don't get me started on security there....as a crewmember about to work an actual flight I went through at least 3 different security checkpoints, it was straight up redonkulous. I'm sure KLM and the Skyteam Mafia have a neato cool way to get in; but for us garbage haulers it sucks with a capital S.

PS: don't get into freight thinking you'll escape security. I've been wanded, patted down, x-ray'd, and frisked more times in the last year than I care to remember. The topper might be the security checkpoint in HKG you have to go through just to get out of the airport. That's right, there's security screening to leave the airport.
 
I saw this posted the other day and was wondering about the problems also. . It's hard to believe they could spend that kind of money and still be unable to detect the next underwear bomber.
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Congressional Report: TSA vs. Underwear Bomber
"A harshly critical new report by congressional investigators says that despite spending close to $60 billion on the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), screening is based on "theatrics" ....... Air travel, meanwhile, is no safer than it was before September 11, 2001." [New American]

After 911 itself, the Underwear Bomber is the most often cited justification for pat-downs and the purchase of full body scanners. Yet, this report expresses doubts that the new scanners are even capable of detecting the next underwear bomber.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...ssional-report-tsa-useless-despite-60-billion
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/267126/house-gop-report-a-call-for-tsa-reform.pdf
 
I've never been through a scanner. They tried to get me to go once "randomly". I refused and took the pat down. It was a giant cluster but in the end I still managed to escape it. I hate the TSA and all their BS security procedures
 
Cargo has been hit or miss for me. My favorite was going through a cargo gate at a major airport. The security officer was checking company ID and gov't ID. So I had her my company ID and passport. She acts like WTF is this and hads it back and goes I am sorry I can only accept Driver Licenses as official forms of ID. If you want to use that I will have to call the local PD over which will delay you..

Since when is a DL a better ID over a passport? It is a million times easier to get a fake DL than a passport. I felt bad for the loaders as they have to show a DL and ID everytime they go to or from the warehouse, which is just on the other side of the gate. You'd think they would have some sort of badge reader at a major airport to stop the joke the joke of 10-20 guys signing in and out every 30-45 minutes. I guess they need to justify the salary for two rent a cops.
 
FWIW I don't think SFO has TSA. Isn't their security contracted out to a company called "CAS" (Covenant Aviation Security)? Still weird regardless.
 
inigo88 said:
FWIW I don't think SFO has TSA. Isn't their security contracted out to a company called "CAS" (Covenant Aviation Security)? Still weird regardless.
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Correct.

Covenant doesn't seem all that bad, I've gone through there two or three times now and they seem to do alright. They're quicker.

Regarding the House report above, I take issue with this:
TSA should expand and revise the Screening Partnership Program so that more
airport authorities can transition airport screening operations to private contractors
under federal supervision. Instead of vesting all discretion with TSA to approve airport
opt-out applications, the TSA Administrator should pre-qualify private screening
companies that are capable of providing effective passenger and baggage screening
services. Then, when an airport makes the decision to apply to the Screening Partnership
Program, TSA can select from the pre-qualified contractors.
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I fail to see how a government-sponsored oligopoly is better than a government operated monopoly.
 
inigo88 said:
FWIW I don't think SFO has TSA. Isn't their security contracted out to a company called "CAS" (Covenant Aviation Security)? Still weird regardless.
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Most of the time SFO TSA/CAS is pretty cool. There are a few bad apples, and sometimes stuff goes wrong, but they're better than a lot of cities. Plus a bunch of hot chicks work there.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
Cargo has been hit or miss for me. My favorite was going through a cargo gate at a major airport. The security officer was checking company ID and gov't ID. So I had her my company ID and passport. She acts like WTF is this and hads it back and goes I am sorry I can only accept Driver Licenses as official forms of ID. If you want to use that I will have to call the local PD over which will delay you.
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"I'm sorry, I didn't know that in order to get through securitay, I had to also be a licensed driver."
 
ChasenSFO said:
I hear the TSA has changed the imaging on body scanners. In SFO, they thought my friend had stuff in his pocket, he didn't, then they search him for explosives, and he tests positive despite just waking up and driving to the airport. This earned him a strip search despite being an employee. Then on the way back from LAX, they accuse me of having stuff strapped to my leg, pull me aside, and feel my entire leg up. Is this thing totally inaccurate or what? Never been suspected of having anything before, then twice in one day someone in my party gets accused. Also saw a lady get accused of having something on her hip, which she didn't. Whats the deal with this stupid thing?
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I thought it was against their policy to do strip searches?
 
mshunter said:
Eat a blue pill before you go through to give them something to look at.
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I've always sort of wanted to do that on one of those "inevitable middle seat for 4+ hours" flights and go about it nonchalantly. But now that you bring up going thru TSA like that, I sort of want to do that and put some staples in my pocket that I "forget" to take out.
 
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